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To: Mr Rogers; blue-duncan; kosta50; wmfights; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
Paul isn’t talking about the physical body of Christ, but the Church

Let the gentle reader judge:

Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. 24 And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. 25 In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me. 26 For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. 27 Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. (1 Cor. 11)

"this is my body, which shall be delivered for you". Do you really think it is the Church that is delivered? Neither have I ever heard the Church referred to as the "blood of the Lord".

What you preach is height of absurdity, all to obfuscate the truth of the scripture.

1,391 posted on 12/11/2009 9:51:44 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; blue-duncan; kosta50; wmfights; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

“What you preach is height of absurdity, all to obfuscate the truth of the scripture.”

No, it connects the scripture before and after with the scripture in between...

“But in the following instructions I do not commend you, because when you come together it is not for the better but for the worse.

“For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you. And I believe it in part, for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized. When you come together, it is not the Lord’s supper that you eat. For in eating, each one goes ahead with his own meal. One goes hungry, another gets drunk. What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.”

[He starts his discussion of the Lord’s Supper by denying that the practice of the Corinthians even counts. There are divisions. Each goes ahead with his own meal. Some do so in such excess that they get drunk. he asks, “do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing?]

“For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

[In the previous 3 chapters, he talks about identifying ourselves with the body of Christ, rather than identifying with idols. Remember what is in Chapter 10: “The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread. Consider the people of Israel: are not those who eat the sacrifices participants in the altar? What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.”]

[Having talked about what it wrong, he now talks about the right way to take the Eucharist.]

“In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.”

[When they take the Eucharist, they are to do so “In remembrance” and by doing so, they “proclaim the Lord’s death...]

“Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.”

[Those who do what he describes in verses 18-22 should be doing what he describes in verses 23-26. If not, then verse 27 describes the result. Verse 27 doesn’t exist in a vacuum - it follows verses 17-26.]

“Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.

That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged. But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.”

{If they do it right, and discern the body of Christ, then...]

“So then, my brothers, when you come together to eat, wait for one another— if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home—so that when you come together it will not be for judgment. About the other things I will give directions when I come.”

Paul then spends the next 3 chapters discussing spiritual gifts, and how they are to build the body of Christ, the Church, saying, “For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.”

CONTEXT! We must read each verse in context! Read Augustine, if you don’t like what I write - scripture is to be read in context. Verses don’t just fall like acorns from a tree and lie independent on the ground.

You write: “”this is my body, which shall be delivered for you”. Do you really think it is the Church that is delivered? Neither have I ever heard the Church referred to as the “blood of the Lord”.”

Have you never heard the Church described as the BODY OF CHRIST? And do you not know that His flesh and blood was shed for all of us? As he discusses in the previous chapter, just as eating food sacrificed to idols identifies one with idols and demons, taking the Eucharist identifies us with Christ. We are one body in Christ - discern it, or God will judge you for the actions you take in church - which is what Chapter 11 is discussing, and that he continues to discuss in Chapters 12-14.


1,394 posted on 12/12/2009 1:17:16 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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