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To: kosta50
Judaism was never a monolithic and universal religion. That's why what makes you Jewish is not your faith but genetics (you are "born" Jewish if you mother is Jewish) and 'tradition.' That's why even an atheist can be a Jew, but not a Christian. The one thing that unites all Jewish etc, no matter how Orthodox or liberal, is their rejection of Jesus as a deity.

Of course you are omitting the Messianic Jews on purpose, right? They are Jewish by genetics and Christian by their chosen faith. I know several and they would strenously object to being told they are not Jewish Christians. :o)

1,361 posted on 12/10/2009 9:57:01 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: boatbums
Of course you are omitting the Messianic Jews on purpose, right?

I am not. Messianic Jews are Pharisees/modern Jews who believe in the coming of the Messiah (who hasn't come yet) and the resurrection of the dead.

If you are referring to a Christian sect that calls itself "Messianic Jews," you bet I am leaving them out on purpose.

I know several and they would strenously object to being told they are not Jewish Christians. :o)

I am sure they would. However, one thing all Jewish sects agree on is that one cannot be a Christian and remain a Jew, just as one could not become a Muslim and remain a Jew.

1,363 posted on 12/10/2009 11:13:06 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you)
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