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To: kosta50
So what that Paul wasn't there. He doesn't claim he was. He said Jesus appeared to Peter, it doesn't say he appeared to Peter "first" and then to the "other" twelve, does it? Is this an example of preconceived ideas flavoring the reading? Did not the apostles choose another to take Judas' place? What about the part concerning the five hundred witnesses? You're not going to just toss that out because you think Paul couldn't count, are you? I see no contradiction between Matthew's and Paul's account, so chosing one or the other isn't necessary.

I'm signing off now (2 a.m.). Hope you have a restful night.

1,192 posted on 12/05/2009 11:01:59 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: boatbums
He doesn't claim he was. He said Jesus appeared to Peter, it doesn't say he appeared to Peter "first" and then to the "other" twelve, does it?

What other Twelve, boatbums? There were a total of eleven disciples left, one of them was Peter. If he appeared to Peter then he could appear only to the other TEN. C'mon, that's simple algebra. :)

Did not the apostles choose another to take Judas' place?

Yes, they did. Do you know when? Apparently not! or else you wouldn't be asking me: it was after Jesus left (i.e. ascended to heaven)...not when he resurrected 40 days prior to that. You've got to keep your time frames in order, dear lady.

What about the part concerning the five hundred witnesses?

What about it? What about Matthew 28:17 who was there and says he only appeared to his eleven disciples?

You're not going to just toss that out because you think Paul couldn't count, are you?

Nor are you going to toss out Matthew, just because you feel Paul is know-it-all.

I see no contradiction between Matthew's and Paul's account, so choosing one or the other isn't necessary.

LOL! I suppose 500 or 11, not really important is it? perhaps you need to re-read the NT. Paul's claim is a blatant contradiction.

But since you decided to pick at this scab, let's look at some Bible FACTS:

To How Many Disciples does Resurrected Jesus Appear?

Author

Verse

# of Disciples

Paul

1 Cor 15:5

12

Matthew

28:16-17

11

Mark

16:14

11

Luke

24:33-37

11

John

20:24

10*

*John says 10 because Thomas wasn't there, else it would have been eleven. But he did appear later before Thomas, so all four Gospels have the right number.

Paul obviously couldn't count or, better yet, was making ti up base don what he heard form someone since he wasn't there.

The contradictions just keep piling up when we ask

To Whom did Jesus appear first after Resurrection?

Author Verse Person
Matthew 28:1, 9 two Marys

Mark

John

16:9

20:11-14

one Mary (Magdalene)
Luke 24:13-31 Cleopas and another
Paul 1 Cor 15:4-5 Cephas

You don't see any contradictions?

1,195 posted on 12/06/2009 1:01:38 AM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you)
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