[BastropBarbie]

His response was along the lines of "Did you notice that all the prophesies of a Messiah could as easily have applied to Mary as to Jesus"?

ABSOLUTELY ABSURD!!--Where pray tell does it EVER say that Mary would be bruised for ALL our inequities?????

[muawiyah]

We have tradition to guide us regarding which prophecies relate to which person ~ we also have The Spirit to guide us.

There's room for debate but I'm not debating that point ~ we are, instead discussing previously overlooked but very important scripture, and how it happens that we suddenly realize what was said.

Someday we'll discuss your question but this is not the time.