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To: Nosterrex

With all due respect your logic is specious. There is no logical imperative between women and homosexuals. Woman, all things being equal are who they are. Homosexuals, however, are defective. Sorry, if that offends, but they are. They do not function as God and/or nature intended. Same-sex attraction is not normal.

Furthermore, homosexual acts are condemned in the Bible numerous times. This is fact. Wishing it to be otherwise does not make it so.

Having said the above, I have no problem with any man or woman becoming a religious leader. But I don’t understand why it’s important for me to know their sexual preference. Why, for example, is it important for me to know that a men’s choral group singing at my local library is “The Gay Men’s Chorus”.

People can be defective physically and mentally and still answer God’s Call. Gay and lesbian clergy should keep their problem to themselves. It is not relevant to their calling. Tolerance is an integral part of all Judeo-Christian faiths. It doesn’t just apply to the homosexual community.

Sorry, but your moral equivalence argument does not apply.


13 posted on 11/18/2009 5:44:12 PM PST by dools007
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To: dools007

Based on the posts I read and what I am familiar with, I think you are reading things into what was written that are not there. I’m not sure how you concluded that moral equivalency was being forwarded, but not much of your post seems to fit without it.

The statement was that the same arguments for the ordination of women were used to argue for the ordination of gays. The argument was not scripture based; it could not be. But once the “man’s wisdom superseding God’s” path had been followed it was that much easier to do again. Sadly, so many in the church catholic are ignorant of scripture that apostasy is easier to advance with time.

I suspect an example of this very concern is the second half of your post. Church members, and in particular, church leaders are held to a moral standard defined by God in scripture. If a person is known to be in active sin they are to repent or be removed. There is a defined process for this. There is no “don’t ask don’t tell” in scripture.

I’m also very curious to read more about what you mean by “Tolerance is an integral part of all Judeo-Christian faiths.” Please expand on that statement.


20 posted on 11/18/2009 10:43:01 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: dools007

It’s relevant to their calling if they are living in a sexual relationship outside of marriage, just as it would be if a heterosexual pastor was living with a person of the opposite sex outside of marriage. One can’t openly break one of the ten commandments and still legitimately call themselves a pastor. But if your larger point is that the reality of their mental condition is separate from taking action on that abnormality, then I agree.


22 posted on 11/19/2009 4:39:21 AM PST by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: dools007

“But I don’t understand why it’s important for me to know their sexual preference. “

Because homosexuality is a sin, plain and simple. Openly adulterous men should not be pastors either. Or men that make their living stealing money, etc, etc.


29 posted on 11/19/2009 7:40:54 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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