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To: restornu; AFA-Michigan; Elsie
The Church supports these ordinances because they are fair and reasonable and do not do violence to the institution of marriage. They are also entirely consistent with the Church’s prior position on these matters.

Well, even this pro-gay letter-to-the-editor writer from West Jordan, UT, John Johnson, was able to see through this stated ignorance -- your highlighted second sentence above...(tis better to call it ignorance than a lie -- and since I don't know motive/intent for this, I can't call it a lie):

Johnson wrote: For those Mormons who claim this is a continuation of their church's previous policy, years of documented history say otherwise. And if this was consistent with the LDS Church's previous policies, it wouldn't be headlines around the world, the lead story of evening news programs and being debated on Mormon blogs everywhere.

Gee Resty, don't you just hate it when headlines around the world, lead stories on news programs, open debate on Mormon blogs, and documented history just clashes with your shallow claims?

62 posted on 11/20/2009 3:43:03 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: restornu; Colofornian

Oh, BTW, the source for Johnson’s quote was the Salt Lake Trib: http://www.sltrib.com/Opinion/ci_13825259


63 posted on 11/20/2009 3:44:40 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Colofornian

What part of the commandment “Love One Another” don’t you understand?

The Savior taught a much higher concept, that of love. “Love thy neighbor,” He admonished. [13] Jesus loved the sinner even while decrying the sin, as evidenced in the case of the woman taken in adultery: treating her kindly, but exhorting her to “sin no more.” [14] Tolerance as a gospel principle means love and forgiveness of one another, not “tolerating” transgression.

In today’s secular world, the idea of tolerance has come to mean something entirely different. Instead of love, it has come to mean condone – acceptance of wrongful behavior as the price of friendship.

Jesus taught that we love and care for one another without condoning transgression. But today’s politically palatable definition insists that unless one accepts the sin he does not tolerate the sinner.

As Elder Dallin H. Oaks has explained,

Tolerance obviously requires a non-contentious manner of relating toward one another’s differences. But tolerance does not require abandoning one’s standards or one’s opinions on political or public policy choices. Tolerance is a way of reacting to diversity, not a command to insulate it from examination. [15]

The Church does not condone abusive treatment of others and encourages its members to treat all people with respect. However, speaking out against practices with which the Church disagrees on moral grounds – including same-sex marriage – does not constitute abuse or the frequently misused term “hate speech.” We can express genuine love and friendship for the homosexual family member or friend without accepting the practice of homosexuality or any re-definition of marriage.


66 posted on 11/20/2009 7:51:11 PM PST by restornu
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