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To: stfassisi
This does not extend to the Church condemning any state for refusing to install crucifixes in public classrooms.

I'm thinking more of the state taking down of crosses from classrooms they were once in.

This is a government institution. Drab grey bureaucrats. Can you see them instituting something like this? Decree across the board. Either they're all up or they're all down. No difference from here.

Do you believe this is against the will of God and we should be willing to not obey a state and keep placing them back regardless of what the state says?

That's an interesting proposal. Let me put my answer this way:

I prefer to have an orthodox (Latin or East) society. I believe that as a society, it is far better for the souls and well being of all individuals within it. The Crucifix is a great religious symbol - perhaps the greatest that I have ever considered.

Now, who is the 'we'? Who specifically is going to put them back? Who specifically is going to buy them, and replace them? The better solution, in my estimation, is to have Catholic institutions and then the problem does not exist. That way, the constitution, and the laws of the land support the Christian viewpont and not oppose them.

63 posted on 11/14/2009 6:16:25 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"Now, who is the 'we'?""

Me included.

Don't feel I'm aiming anything at you,dear brother,it was not my intention.

I just look at the lives of some of the early church fathers and wonder what they would think of our weakness.

I was reading some Saint Ignatius today and was at awe of his brilliance and faith,yet he thought nothing of his own life and gave everything for Our Lord and His Church regardless of knowing that opposition to a pagan state would mean brutal torture for him.

If we could only have this type of faith-May God have mercy on me and all of us!

Saint Iganatius in pictures..

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64 posted on 11/14/2009 6:50:50 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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