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To: MarkBsnr

“I believe that with the evolving relationship between the Church and Italy, and with the jettisoning of Catholicism as state religion, the Vatican is for all means and purposes a fully independent nation with no strings attached in terms of international relations.”

The treaty seems to say otherwise though

I would agree and this explains that a Pope could speak out against Nazi Germany although it is was an alley of Italy

MIT BRENNENDER SORGE
On the Church and the German Reich
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11BRENN.HTM


59 posted on 11/14/2009 5:43:45 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
“I believe that with the evolving relationship between the Church and Italy, and with the jettisoning of Catholicism as state religion, the Vatican is for all means and purposes a fully independent nation with no strings attached in terms of international relations.”

The treaty seems to say otherwise though

The original one; the latest? I think that they have arrived at an understanding both written and unwritten.

I would agree and this explains that a Pope could speak out against Nazi Germany although it is was an alley of Italy

Note the language, though. Very polite and pleading.

61 posted on 11/14/2009 5:48:09 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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