[Mad Dawg]

As the man said, there's a lack of historical knowledge here, not just of facts, but also of how to interpret facts.

We can, with good will, argue over Sabbatarianism and Judaizing generally. We can lament the anti-Semitism of that age, of this age, and of intervening ages.

But we are not going to get anywhere useful if you guys don't get that practices aren't initiated by their prescription. Councils and the like more often resolve conflicts than initiate new practices. Many many Catholics believed in the real presence before the doctrine was defined. It is the same for the Marian Dogmata, and it was the same for Sunday worship and quartodecimanism. TO point to a document and say it represents the beginning of a practice is to make an assumption, not an argument.

[Uri’el-2012]

As the man said, there's a lack of historical knowledge here, not just of facts, but also of how to interpret facts.

We can, with good will, argue over Sabbatarianism and Judaizing generally. We can lament the anti-Semitism of that age, of this age, and of intervening ages.

But we are not going to get anywhere useful if you guys don't get that practices aren't initiated by their prescription. Councils and the like more often resolve conflicts than initiate new practices. Many many Catholics believed in the real presence before the doctrine was defined. It is the same for the Marian Dogmata, and it was the same for Sunday worship and quartodecimanism. TO point to a document and say it represents the beginning of a practice is to make an assumption, not an argument.

When man-made tradition impugns the Word of G-d.
it should be rejected, nay rebuked as Yah'shua rebuked the Pharisees.

Yah'shua recommends rebuke in

NAsbU Luke 17:3 "Be on your guard!
If your brother sins,
rebuke him; and
if he repents, forgive him.

or Paul

NAsbU 1 Timothy 5:1 Do not sharply rebuke an older man,
but rather appeal to him as a father,
to the younger men as brothers,

NAsbU 1 Timothy 5:20 Those who continue in sin,
rebuke in the presence of all,
so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.

NAsbU 2 Timothy 4:2 preach the word;
be ready in season and out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort,
with great patience and instruction.

or any of the following:
Deut. 28:20; Ruth 2:16; 1 Sam. 3:13; 2 Sam. 22:16; 2 Ki. 19:3f; Job 11:3; 26:11; Ps. 6:1; 18:15; 38:1; 68:30; 76:6; 80:16; 94:10; 104:7; 119:21; Prov. 13:1, 8; 17:10; 24:25; 27:5; Eccl. 7:5; Isa. 17:13; 37:3f; 50:2; 51:20; 54:9; 66:15; Hos. 5:9; Zech. 3:2; Mal. 2:3; 3:11; Matt. 16:22; Mk. 8:32; Lk. 17:3; 19:39; 1 Tim. 5:1, 20; 2 Tim. 4:2; 2 Pet. 2:16; Jude 1:9

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach