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Do Whatever He Tells You: The BVM (Statement of Evangelicals and Catholics Together )
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| November 2009
Posted on 10/22/2009 11:42:38 AM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee
Can’t seem to find the links posted on FR, perhaps the articles were removed. I certainly read them on FR though. I did consult dr. google with
“mary unite catholic muslim”
and found plenty of references. No promises on the sites that will take you to.
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posted on
10/22/2009 1:42:16 PM PDT
by
dartuser
("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
To: dartuser; netmilsmom; Petronski; trisham
Can’t seem to find the links posted on FR, perhaps the articles were removed. I certainly read them on FR though. I did consult dr. google with “mary unite catholic muslim”
and found plenty of references. No promises on the sites that will take you to.
Well you see, when you make these statements the burden of proof is on you. I'm not going to spend hours trying to prove a negative.
The Catholic Church IS NOT considering uniting with Islam except perhaps in the minds of lunatics. If you believe otherwise, YOU need to provide documentation.
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posted on
10/22/2009 1:53:04 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
I hestitate to speculate what “proof” we may receive this time around.
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posted on
10/22/2009 1:58:32 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wagglebee
Listen, I read the article on FR, the words Mary and either Islam or Muslim was in the title. A few days after I read it I was able to search on it and find the article. It was awhile ago. Why isnt the article there now? ... how the heck would I know. I provided the google search to make sure it was out there somewhere ... and there are more than a few articles.
The burden of proof that the articles exist has been fulfilled. The burden of curiosity is on you. Go read the articles ... or don’t ... what do I care?
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posted on
10/22/2009 2:00:55 PM PDT
by
dartuser
("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
To: dartuser; wagglebee
>>The burden of proof that the articles exist has been fulfilled.<<
You remind me of the guy on People’s Court this morning that handed the judge a Money order receipt.
She said, “How do I know this went to him?”
The guy replied “I wrote his name on the back.”
Seriously, do you think that because you state it, it’s proof?
Really?
If a lib did that would you accept it?
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posted on
10/22/2009 2:06:31 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
To: dartuser
No, I’m saying that Mary will be the key building bridge by which the RCC will unite with Muslims. Not a problem! All those Muslims have to do is recite (and believe) the Nicene Creed and accept Trinitarian baptism, and we'll be able to unite with them.
(Of course, that makes them apostates from Islam, but who's keeping score ...)
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:01:38 PM PDT
by
Campion
("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
To: netmilsmom
Is there anyway to ping the more reasonable non-Catholics to this? Build it and they will come :-)
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:05:28 PM PDT
by
NYer
( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: wagglebee; netmilsmom; Petronski
That is possible, or it is also possible that the bigots swarm the thread and discredit all of the Evangelicals on the panel. I disagree with all of you. There is no way to defend the indefensible. The agreement is all here in black on white; no arguments remain.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:10:06 PM PDT
by
NYer
( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: netmilsmom; Mr Rogers
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:10:41 PM PDT
by
NYer
( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: marshmallow
Men of good will who are genuinely searching for the truth (as opposed to trying to fling as much poop in the opposite direction as possible) can accomplish wonders. Prayers for the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit on these good men. Agreed. Notice one of the signatories is Fr. Richard John Neuhaus† (1936–2009) who felt very strongly about this and invested years in this project. May he rest with the angels and saints!
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:12:39 PM PDT
by
NYer
( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: NYer
He is pretty reasonable and Highly intelligent.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:20:46 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
To: NYer
They just won’t show up.
Look around.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:21:22 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
To: netmilsmom
Do Christian evangelists use this affinity for Mary at all in trying to talk to Muslims about Christ? If they like Mary, maybe they would like to know what she says about her Son.
To: dartuser
The burden of proof that the articles exist has been fulfilled. Nonsense.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:34:42 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: NYer
**Do Whatever He Tells You: The BVM (Statement of Evangelicals and Catholics Together )**
Listen to the last words of the Blessed Mother.
“Do whatever he tells you.”
Great thread.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:37:47 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Petronski
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:38:25 PM PDT
by
big'ol_freeper
("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
Listen to the last words of the Blessed Mother.
I needed to add — as recorded in the Bible.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:39:18 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: NYer; netmilsmom; Mr Rogers
LOL! Well, that's one.
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posted on
10/22/2009 3:39:22 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: NYer
A lengthy but worthwhile read.
Maybe sometime.
It will help all of us to better understand each other’s posting comments when we have a clear understanding of the views of our respective churches.
Eh? Call it incomprehensible anarchy if you want, but none of the individuals listed as "Evangelical Protestants" speaks for me.
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posted on
10/22/2009 4:37:19 PM PDT
by
Lee N. Field
("What is your only comfort, in life and death?" "That I an not my own, but belong, body and soul...")
To: NYer
Excellent read! Bookmarking. Do Whatever He Tells You - good advice for us all, The Wedding Feast at Cana is one of my favorites.
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posted on
10/22/2009 5:30:23 PM PDT
by
fortunecookie
(Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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