To: SonOfDarkSkies
I would respectfully disagree about God's " elect " being deceived, God's elect is God's chosen ones, not religious people.
Jesus said in Mathew chapter 24 verses 22 - 27
22. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25. Behold, I have told you before.
26. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Jesus said " my sheep hear my voice and I call them by name "
God gave these elect to Jesus and not ONE will be lost.
When we are filled with the Holy Spirit, we are SEALED with a seal until the day of redemption.
Jesus said in Mathew 24: 24, that ( IF !!! ) it were possible, they shall deceived the very elect.
I do not believe that God's elect, or chosen will be deceived.
Now, the religious who were never God's people in the first place will be deceived.
34 posted on
10/11/2009 8:06:23 PM PDT by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: American Constitutionalist
I don't disagree with you, but I would point out that there is a difference between being "Deceived" (mistaking the Evil One for Christ or mistaking Good for Evil) and being "deceived" (with a small "d"). Being "deceived" (small "d") might only include being fooled--even temporarity--about the identity of the Son of Perdition (for example is Obama merely AN AntiChrist or is he THE AntiChrist?).
My point is that it might be too early to tell.
Satan certainly has the guile to deceive even the Elect in some matters...just not as to the discernment of Good vs Evil OR the identity of Christ.
Additionally, I think it is dangerous arrogance and hubris (as Paul called it, boasting in the Spirit) to assume that because one is in the Blood (i.e. Elect) that his/her discernment is perfect at all times (we are still sinners and still make mistakes).
The only discernment that is perfect is that which is unmistakably received from the Holy Spirit and nearly everyone I know who is filled with the Holy Spirit is still unsure as to the ultimate identity of Obama vis-a-vis Satan.
It seems to me (from much prayer on this matter) that the Holy Spirit speaks clearly as to the evil of Obama's agenda...but his (Obama's) role in the Final Agenda of Evil has NOT YET been fully revealed to me or my Spirit-filled brothers and sisters.
42 posted on
10/12/2009 2:53:01 AM PDT by
SonOfDarkSkies
(For good judgment ask...What would Obama do? Then do the opposite!)
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