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To: Houghton M.
"Twisting" Rome or Protestantism does not break the rules of the religion forum. "Making things personal" is making personal remarks about individual FReepers.

Mary was not "raped." Mary did not "give her consent." Mary was chosen. Did Paul "give his consent" on the road to Damascus?

348 posted on 10/05/2009 7:57:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Of course Paul gave his consent. What Bible are you reading? God hits him upside the head and Paul changes heart and consents to God. What’s so hard about that?

Refusing consent would have Paul getting up, blinded, and defiantly telling his companions to take him back to Jerusalem, cursing his blindness, spitting on God.

But the text has him giving in to God, consenting, meekly consentingly following God’s orders. Not giving consent is not following orders. Paul followed orders.

See, you have a theory that consent is not given because people are not free; God elects and that’s that. You have a governing theology against free will.

So even where the text clearly has people giving consent, you have to deny it. This is such a ludicrous misreading of these texts that anyone neutral observer would have to laugh at your twisting. Yet “Rome twists.”

Give me a break.


353 posted on 10/05/2009 8:10:21 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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