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To: rwfromkansas
This is one piece of evidence. Anything can be faked. I am not a big believer in the shroud, but not that exciting. Other evidence points to ancient origin, so if fake, it’s an old one.

I find the Shroud of Turin interesting but it has no bearing whatsoever on my faith. It would be neat if its authencity is proven (which it probably never can be) but I wouldn't be troubled in the least, if it was found to be a fake (which I suspect, it probably is).

This isn't the first time that someone has shown a method which could have been used to produce something like the Shroud of Turin. N. D. Wilson, the author, reported such a method a few years back. I really liked Wilson's statement about his conclusion: "it (the Shroud) is a lie about a great truth (the Resurrection)."


167 posted on 10/05/2009 12:53:07 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: CommerceComet

Yes, and N. D. Wilson’s attempt failed to duplicate a host of characteristics. He at least was honest in recognizing the limitations of what his ‘experiment’ “proved,” though he drew more skepticism from the limited “proof” than its limitations warranted. But at least he was honest about some of the limitations.


179 posted on 10/05/2009 12:58:57 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: CommerceComet
It would be neat if its authencity is proven (which it probably never can be) but I wouldn't be troubled in the least, if it was found to be a fake (which I suspect, it probably is).

I think it's probably real, but it can NEVER be fully authenticated. The temporal authentication can be done (the pollen, the reweaving, z-twist, s-twist, whatever) but how in the world do you authenticate deity-infusion? Even if false, it recalls the Passion of Our Lord. How can that be a bad thing? If it WAS made by a man, he's not getting any money off it now.

208 posted on 10/05/2009 1:19:21 PM PDT by nina0113
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