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To: rhema
"For 20 years, we have fought and discussed things that are really rather minor and esoteric, things that the Bible really doesn't speak to us much about," he said. "We've talked about the nuclear freeze and apartheid. We debated pulling our assets out of South Africa. It's been a political discussion driven by activists on the very far and flaky left of the ELCA."

Ping for later

3 posted on 10/01/2009 7:08:33 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; Frumanchu; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; BibChr; jude24
In simplified terms, Wells and other opponents of the resolution place an emphasis on the law part, saying that their interpretation of Scripture holds that God views homosexuality as a sin. The resolution's proponents believe the emphasis should be on the gospel aspect. They generally believe that all humans have sinned and that "self-righteousness is no longer possible," said Johnson. "That's a basic idea in Lutheran theology — God saves us; we do not."

If that is the most pernicious distortion of the doctrine of grace that I've ever seen, then I simply can't recall it. It is the epitome of Paul's "Shall we sin so that grace may abound? May it NEVER BE!"

If this writer is aware, then this writer is evil.

8 posted on 10/01/2009 8:32:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Alex Murphy

He is absolutely right. The ELCA made a decision that from the get go that it would not allow discussion of doctrine or doctrinal issues. It has substituted biblical Christianity for political activism and ideology. As Rev. Wright says: The chickens have come home to roost.


10 posted on 10/01/2009 8:42:40 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Alex Murphy

He is absolutely right. The ELCA made a decision that from the get go that it would not allow discussion of doctrine or doctrinal issues. It has substituted biblical Christianity for political activism and ideology. As Rev. Wright says: The chickens have come home to roost.


11 posted on 10/01/2009 8:42:43 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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