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To: betty boop; metmom; xzins
Thank you oh so very much for this outstanding, illuminating essay, dearest sister in Christ!

Truly, I suspect Einstein's strong determinism was rooted in his vision of the "lofty structure" of "all that there is."

Clearly he was a geometer of the greatest insight. And I very strongly agree with his dream of transmuting the base wood of matter into the pure marble of geometry.

But he had an astonishing prejudice in favor of physical causation (as do most scientists) and I imagine that might have clouded his cosmology.

Or to put it another way, he accepted that God must be in order for "all that there is" to become - the initial cause or first cause.

But beyond that, perhaps because he had a greater appreciation for the magnitude of the universe, he could not envision God being bothered with the small things to cause anything else (non-physical causation.)

He certain saw God's hand in the "lofty structure" - as I often do in the "unreasonable effectiveness of math" (Wigner.)

Then again, Einstein didn't live to gain the insights of information theory (Shannon et al) or how it applies to biological life. Had he known these things, perhaps he would have expended his cosmology to include non-physical causation.

Under Shannon this would be called "successful communication."

But we Christians recognize the cause as God Himself, Jesus Christ, Logos,Creator not just Alpha but Omega as well.

God's Name is I AM.

9 posted on 09/28/2009 10:33:54 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
But he had an astonishing prejudice in favor of physical causation (as do most scientists) and I imagine that might have clouded his cosmology.

Indeed — physical causation of the Newtonian type. Whose theory Einstein himself realizes is not "the last word" in physics, any more than quantum mechanics (in his oft-stated view). Newton's mechanics, you'll recall, forbids the idea of final cause. Thus we are not entitled to inquire into what Einstein's "lofty structure" is for, or what the "pure marble of geometry" — the ultimate cause of all that there is — is there for....

I'd love to know what Einstein would have made of, not only Shannon's information theory, but also of Rosen's relational biology.

I dunno; maybe I'm reading too much of myself into the picture here; but it sure looks to me that Einstein's "pure marble of geometry" is closely related to the idea of Logos....

The Word, Alpha to Omega.

All glory be to God!

20 posted on 09/28/2009 11:18:30 AM PDT by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: leftyontheright

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30 posted on 09/28/2009 1:55:05 PM PDT by leftyontheright
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