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How to tell the cult group from the Church? Know the truth!
Christian Messenger (India's Evangelical Newspaper) ^ | Sept. 12, 2009 | Sheba Devaraj

Posted on 09/15/2009 8:21:31 AM PDT by Colofornian

“HI, we’d like to talk to you about Jesus Christ!”

Standing tall, two young and well-dressed American boys at my door broke the ice instantaneously. Happy to see them, I said that we were Christians too. What happened next, however, took me by surprise and left me scrambling for words. Stating that they were members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, they said they wanted to talk about a prophet and a book given to the prophet by God. Though a little shaken, I refused to hear their ideologies — they left only to return another day in a bid to coax me.

In today’s world, cults are very much a reality. Cults are widely prevalent in our country, in our city too. An unexpected encounter with cult members can leave us disturbed. As Jesus warned, during the last days, there will be many people proclaiming different ideologies in His name. It is our duty to be vigilant and strong in faith.

God’s Word says that many deceptive spirits will be on the loose, waiting to swallow the unaware. So do we know how to discern deceptions? We may know that their claims do not align with God’s Word, we may even understand that their belief is not the Truth – but how do we handle encounters with cult members? How do we prepare ourselves to face the challenges of the last days? One way is to be aware of the different cults and to understand their approach.

Take the case of Mormons. Mormonism and polygamy go hand in hand - an attractive proposition for today’s world. ‘Mormonism’ has a good number of followers in the US and several other parts of the world. But the Mormons have been in Chennai as well for nearly a decade now and have slowly yet steadily increased in numerical strength.

A conversation based on such beliefs can perturb anybody, especially if we are not prepared. THE CHRISTIAN MESSENGER spoke to a cross-section of senior church leaders, who threw light on how we could tackle such encounters. Each of them shared valuable insights on how to be prepared always, how to answer cult members, and how to watch and pray.

Pastor P Vijayaraghavan of the Apostolic Church said, “I know that the Mormons have been around in Chennai for about 10 years. They’ve grown a lot and that wouldn’t be possible but for their polygamous behavior.” He agreed that as believers, we should know Christian truth well enough to be able to decipher cults.

“Cult groups have something novel to offer to people and especially exploit their gullible nature,” said he said.

Pastor Arthur Devadoss of Hosanna Ministries had an interesting anecdote to share.

“The Mormons gave me their book sometime ago and I didn’t even bother to read it. They came back for the book and fought with me,” he said.

However, Pastor Devadoss is worried about another new church group.

“There is a new group called the Indian Church of Christ that approaches people with visiting cards; they worry me the most. They speak the local language and lure youngsters to join them. They, too, propagate polygamy and immoral relationships,” he said.

He has briefed his congregation well about such cults and has asked them to stand up for their beliefs. In case they are unable to do so, he asks them to just invite the cult followers to their church or refer them to the pastor. “They’ll never trouble you again,” Devadoss affirmed.

Pastor Jayakaran Emmanuel of Power House Church echoes this view.

“It’s better for you not to entertain them. Since we know their beliefs are misleading and untrue, don’t encourage them and they won’t approach you further,” he said. Is there anything else that a believer needs to be aware of to tackle these cultists?

Rev. D.C. Premraj, Presbyter of St. George’s Cathedral, said: “There are just a few things that we should watch out for. First, we should be strong in our beliefs. We must make an effort to understand what we believe in. Second, as our faith and belief grow, we must be grounded Biblically. Our foundation must be clear and strong in God’s Word. Third, during any such encounters, check for Biblical context. Anyone can quote from the Bible, but we must know how relevant and contextual it is.”

Confirmation classes and Bible studies conducted by churches are aimed at making the believers’ steadfast in their faith, Rev. Premraj added.

Pastor Jagadeesan Kalyanakumar of Harvest Christian Assembly quoted Ephesians 4:16: “Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” He added: “The rule of thumb is that if you know the original, you can identify the counterfeit. And the more familiar you are with God’s Word, the better you can discern and safeguard yourself from deceptive doctrines.”

In all this, the Bible is the final authority to check any doctrine. Sola Scriptura, meaning the Bible alone, is the key theme in the church’s reformation of the 16th century.

The Jehovah Witnesses, for instance, proclaim Jesus to be an angel with extraordinary powers. But the Bible very clearly says that He is the Messiah, the only begotten Son of God who revealed God and his love to humanity (John: 3:16). Another example, the Mormons’ scripture includes the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.

As Christians, Pastor Joshua Jeyaseelan, Tamil Baptist Church, said: “We have one revealed Word of God which is the Holy Scripture (II Timothy 3:16). So any new doctrine or cult has to be analyzed and understood in the light of the Scripture.”

Pastor Vijayaraghavan said, “We must know how to identify a cult and that’s by knowing what they are. Cults are major deviations from orthodox Christianity relative to the Bible’s cardinal doctrines such as the Trinity, the deity of Jesus Christ, the second coming, millennial reign, and salvation by the grace of Jesus Christ.”

It is our responsibility to understand our beliefs, our stand. Just like the wise man that built his house on the Rock, if our foundation is strong and built on Jesus, it will not be shaken.

Today, it was I who met with the Mormons, tomorrow it could be you. Let us watch and pray for the salvation of cult members and for God to grant us the wisdom to stand strong in His Word.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: antimormonthread; cults; lds; mormon; threadjihad
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To: campaignPete R-CT

LOL...you’re not from these parts, are ya fella ?? ...magritte


161 posted on 09/17/2009 6:17:32 PM PDT by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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To: magritte

that must happen once in a while ... a noobie finds a thread that sends him into a fit! I guess I’ll get the hang of it soon.


162 posted on 09/17/2009 6:24:23 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

These threads are good for a chuckle or two, but also give a good insight into some of the beliefs of the farther edge of the Religious Right...it can be very instructive...magritte


163 posted on 09/17/2009 6:28:47 PM PDT by magritte ("I will give this monkey for lunch to Mr Sata,")
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Thanks Pete, that’s kind of you brother.


164 posted on 09/17/2009 6:35:42 PM PDT by paulist
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To: magritte

what happens if, by the time I am done with the thread, I am part of the farther edge of the Religious Right? Is there a red EJECT button I can push to bail out?


165 posted on 09/17/2009 6:48:50 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: paulist
So this is the writing of a God fearing Christian?

It certainly is "Judge" Paulist. Give my regards to your fellow Pharisees.
166 posted on 09/17/2009 8:48:11 PM PDT by mkjessup ("It's the Jesus Christ Express Card - Don't Judge Others Without His Holy Spirit" :-))
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To: mkjessup

jessup,
Do you mean to tell me that the two of us are stuck with each other as long as I’m on this site? It should be a hoot!

And to think, you first ran into me in the middle of the birthcertificate battle. I got bored with those BC threads fairly quickly. Paulist is right, ya know. They say, “seek and ye shall find”, which is why I am on Freeper. A few years back, when I stopped seeking, It didn’t take long for me to become a “backslider”. Is that word out of vogue?


167 posted on 09/17/2009 11:19:42 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT; paulist

Yeah Pete, looks like it’s just you and me, LOL

My first impression of you (truth be told) was that you seemed to be focused on ringing the dinner bell for our resident anti-birther crowd which seemed kinda trollish to me, but first impressions aren’t always correct, as I’ve learned right here in this thread, i.e., we’ve got Paulist going to town, taking issue with me about this, that and the other thing, and then after you graciously tell them how to find someone’s FR home page, (he was ‘seeking’ and you helped him ‘find’ it ;) he proceeds to go data mining for some political comment I made on MY page for use as fodder in a RELIGIOUS thread, that’s something only a closet-0bama supporter or just a plain ol’ self-righteous holier-than-thou dirtbag would do.

But enough about our local Pharisee.

Now about your claiming to be a backslider (either past or present), each and every one of us is a backslider at some point in our life, our Christian walk is not always consistent, with some people it’s falling off the wagon after giving up the booze, for others it’s being unable to get that nicotine demon off their back, for some it’s being (as Robert Duvall said in his portrayal of the pentecostal Preacher Euliss ‘Sonny’ Dewey in ‘The Apostle’) a “womanizer”, or perhaps something as bland as choosing to go play 18 holes on a Sunday morning instead of going to church. It’s any number of things that can become an obstacle between us, flawed and imperfect human sinners, and Jesus Christ, Flawless, Perfect and without sin.

And fortunately, God is quick to forgive when we confess our sins and failings to Him. There is only One Mediator between God and man, which is Christ Jesus.

Hope your weekend is good Pete.

MKJ


168 posted on 09/18/2009 4:38:36 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

“plain ol’ self-righteous holier-than-thou dirtbag”

You are one classy guy. And yet you think you have enough understanding to counsel someone about backsliding.

“for others it’s being unable to get that nicotine demon off their back” And you call me a Pharisee?

“the ascension of the 0bamas to the White House only meant one thing: another minority family moving into government subsidized housing, nothing more and nothing less”

So is your God as racist as you seem to be?


169 posted on 09/18/2009 7:10:27 AM PDT by paulist
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To: paulist

Hey thanks for showing YOUR true colors, dragging a political comment on my FR page into a RELIGIOUS discussion, that’s worthy of any liberal-leftist slug.

And what exactly is Pharisee-like by citing one of any number of reasons (i.e., that ol’ nicotine demon) that a person might backslide? Tell us “Judge” Paulist, please do.

You want to talk about class? Your first post to me was aggressive and ill-mannered. You reaped what you sowed, deal with it.

And yeah, I’m a racist, I watch NASCAR races every weekend, so you can stuff that ‘racist’ garbage, and I think you know where too.

Now why don’t you just toddle on along now, and see if you can find some new Christians who have accepted Christ, prayed that Sinner’s Prayer, are happy and rejoicing in their new Salvation, so you can tell them they’re still condemned to Hell and eternal fire and brimstone, ok?

I’m sure that’ll make your day.

I rebuke you in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.


170 posted on 09/18/2009 8:16:04 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

“I rebuke you in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Coming from you, and your concept of Him, I consider that an honor.


171 posted on 09/18/2009 9:17:51 AM PDT by paulist
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To: paulist
Once again, you speak out of ignorance. You know nothing of my 'concept' of Jesus Christ, and your pompous arrogance confirms that my description of you as a 'Pharisee' was right on target.

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself, ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’ But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
—Luke 18:9-14

Enjoy your weekend of self-exaltation, "Judge" Paulist.
172 posted on 09/18/2009 9:35:15 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

“humbles himself ...”
Humility is the beginning of all virtue. Jessup, who told you to talk that way to ANYONE?

Did Jesus not say to pray that you will not be ‘put to the test’?


173 posted on 09/18/2009 7:52:13 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I call it the way I see it. Judge Paulist came into this thread with a chip on his shoulder (which he later admitted to), and that’s why it got knocked off. I’ll ultimately answer to God for it, and I’m ok with that.

G’nite Pete.


174 posted on 09/18/2009 8:10:18 PM PDT by mkjessup
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