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To: WVKayaker

***6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:***

Notice the qualifications.

The preceding verses speak of baptism in Christ. Qualification #1.

And we must not serve sin. Qualification #2.

If we remain in Christ, then we believe (!!!) that we shall live with Him. As long as the qualifications are met when we die.


123 posted on 09/11/2009 12:53:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Mark, I know the bonds of your church. I prefer the bonds of Christ. They really take no effort at all! All He requires is faith. All else follows!

Matthew 11: 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." ... -with love, Jesus

Romans 4: 13 It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14 For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, 15because law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17 As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.

18 Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, "So shall your offspring be." 19 Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead—since he was about a hundred years old—and that Sarah's womb was also dead. 20 Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, 21 being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. 22 This is why "it was credited to him as righteousness." 23 The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone, 24 but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification. -with love, Paul

He is risen!


124 posted on 09/11/2009 3:49:26 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C Clarke)
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To: MarkBsnr

The qualifications have already been met onthe cross, Mark. He died for our sins. When I received Him into my life, the qualifications were met for me and for anyone else who receives Christ. You don’t have to go through all manner of contortions to get there.


130 posted on 09/11/2009 4:36:02 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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