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To: Campion

“Y’all understand that instinctively already. That’s why you quote Spurgeon and Calvin to one another. Once you do that, you’re already admitting the utility of tradition. Now the only question becomes ... whose tradition. “

Completely false. In my 35+ years as a Protestant, I’ve never heard anyone say, “Luther/Calvin/Spurgeon said it; I believe it!” We quote COMMENTATORS who provide ARGUMENTS, not AUTHORITIES.

If the arguments are persuasive, then we change. If not, we do not.

“To reject tradition means that you have to assert, in effect, that the Holy Spirit guides you, but hasn’t been guiding other Christians continuously over the past two millennia. If he did guide them, you should listen to them.”

The Holy Spirit guides, but we are all men of flesh who find reasons not to listen. ALL men discussing doctrine mix good and bad. That is why our rule of truth is scripture - it alone comes from God without human error.

Luther’s writings (and Augustine’s) are interesting. God’s writings are revealed truth. The latter judges the former.


61 posted on 08/30/2009 9:41:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers
In my 35+ years as a Protestant, I’ve never heard anyone say, “Luther/Calvin/Spurgeon said it; I believe it!”

I've never heard a Catholic say "Aquinas said it, I believe it," either. What's your point?

We quote COMMENTATORS who provide ARGUMENTS, not AUTHORITIES.

A distinction without a difference.

Luther’s writings (and Augustine’s) are interesting. God’s writings are revealed truth. The latter judges the former.

Obviously. Why do you think we believe any differently?

104 posted on 08/31/2009 9:21:46 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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