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To: boatbums
they will twist it, turn it, pull a part here, pull a part there, and viola Scripture will SAY what they say it says

But if sola scriptura were true, that wouldn't even be possible, would it? I mean it would be obvious to everyone that when Christ says "This is my body" he really means "This is merely a symbolic reminder of my body" and when Paul says "All that I have taught you, pass on to other faithful men who will be able to teach others" he really means "Write a book, make copies, and let everyone figure out what it means for himself."

As far as making Scripture say what we want it to say, compare that to dispensationalist Protestants who rule whole books of the Scriptures out-of-bounds as "not applying to us in the church age". Some of them will say flatly that nothing Christ says in the Gospels applies to Gentile Christians.

Good luck with that on the last day!

60 posted on 08/30/2009 9:35:11 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Campion

Using the practice of those who deny scripture to judge those of us who do not is like judging the Catholic Church for the positions of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi.

Sola Scriptura doesn’t mean evil men cannot twist words for their purposes. On the contrary - it is repeatedly predicted in scripture, so Sola Scriptura anticipates it.


62 posted on 08/30/2009 9:45:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Campion
Sola Scriptura is true in that God himself explains the purpose of him giving it to his church (I mean the universal body of believers in Christ). Scripture says that no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation meaning men of God spoke as they were move by the Holy Spirit and the words given then were not just meant for them but for all true believers for all time. What I think you mean has to do with understanding verses within their context. Words in context mean what they say. It is also helpful to know the specific audience the epistle, for example, is addressed to and what issues are being addressed.

When words are taken out of context and misinterpreted it causes confusion and that is why all Scripture can be used to help in our understanding of it. Not just reading one verse, but starting at the beginning of a chapter of the book to get the sense of purpose for the writings. The Holy Spirit is the must important part because, as we study the Word he brings understanding to us.

This Bible study, reading should never be done for idle curiosity but prayerfully and meditatively with a heart seeking after God's truth. As an example, I can tell you the Bible says "god is dead". But the verse actually says "A fool in his heart says God is dead." That's a simple way of showing the point of words in context meaning what they say. Another way may be you read something Jesus said that doesn't make sense to you. You could look up the verse where Jesus spoke maybe in another Gospel about the same subject and see if the wording is a little clearer.

As far as what Scripture were meant for which group, etc. we should read it all because there are parts that God is using to speak directly to a person about something but the truth of what is spoken applies to us as well. How many people quote the 23 Psalm when they are in a bad place. It was written by David to the Lord yet anyone who reads it feels like it was meant for them personally. I see it as God's Love Letter to US and he will ensure it is preserved for all Eternity.

Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

65 posted on 08/30/2009 10:18:27 PM PDT by boatbums (A man is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep for that which he cannot lose.)
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