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To: betty boop; Quix
Thank you both oh so very much for this fascinating sidebar discussion on memory, Hume, artificial stimulation of the brain, etc.!

Truly I think the key is that there is more to perception under Hume's model than sensory perception.

Obviously Christians experience Spiritual perception, or discernment - "ears to hear."

And one kind of memory that alleges no sensory perception at all is from near-death experiences. Scientists however protest that the memories are not real but an oxygen deprivation dreaming out of a suggestion, something they read about or heard.

However, the stories told by children, who have no apparent ground for dreaming out a suggestion, are quite compelling and very similar.

303 posted on 09/02/2009 9:23:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

And many such cases report the person out of their body seeing things on top of air vents etc. where their body’s eyes could not possibly see anything.

So the oxygen depravation thing is utter balderdash.


305 posted on 09/02/2009 9:35:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix
Truly I think the key is that there is more to perception under Hume's model than sensory perception.

I so agree, dearest sister in Christ! Not all percepts arise from sense data.

Albert Einstein touches on this "mystery":

There had to be something behind objects that lay deeply hidden...the development of [our] world of thought is in a certain sense a flight away from the miraculous.

That percept did not arise in sense experience. Or so it seems to me.

Thank you ever so much for writing, dearest sister in Christ!

p.s.: Am still without my computer.... YIKES! :^(

310 posted on 09/04/2009 10:19:24 AM PDT by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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