Also look at the way the Church was pre-Vatican II, sorry. Of course members actually had to tow the line back in the day. I won't dumb down myself in order accept the hypocrisy some diocese are flaunting now.
It’s not what one says, it’s the way one say it.
Asking someone if she is naive or telling someone that she might learn something is not conducive to a conversation.
I teach my children that. Smarmy get one no where.