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Fourteen Easy Ways to Improve the Liturgy
ic ^ | August 18, 2009 | Arlene Oost-Zinner and Jeffrey Tucker

Posted on 08/18/2009 3:44:35 PM PDT by NYer

Boredom during the liturgy is something all Catholics have felt from time to time, and it's never justifiable. No matter how mundane the architecture, how dull the homily, or how bad the music, what's taking place on the altar is a miraculous sacrifice that gives us the grace for salvation. That reality should be enough to keep our attention.
 
And yet boredom is a reality that good liturgy can help fight. Many parishes try to do so by inventing every manner of new enticement: brighter and larger banners, forced attempts to create an upbeat environment of friendliness and community, big bowls of incense carried by special ministers, and Donahue-style homiletics.
 
The attempt to jazz up the liturgy usually takes the form of musical enhancements and nearly always means more instruments and rhythms drawn from popular music. The rationale isn't complicated. Liturgists are frustrated that people don't get as excited about religion as they do about the pop divas and music videos, and they conclude that they need ever more musical pyrotechnics to make the difference.
 
But these approaches often backfire since the argument for them is flawed at its root. Community feeling and fun are fine, but if the liturgy doesn't offer a setting conducive to prayer and the contemplation of eternal mysteries, it has failed its first aesthetic aim.
 
In any case, Catholics can't compete with the local evangelical community centers for inspiring a toe-tapping community feeling. A recent Gallup poll of Catholics shows that weekly Mass attendance (45 percent do so) continues to slip, and for the first time has slipped behind Protestant churches (48 percent). The defectors from the Roman rite include those who flee to indults and Eastern liturgies or just drop out.
 
There are many reasons for this (demographic, cultural, and theological) and liturgists don't deserve all the blame. Yet the decline in the desire to attend Mass coincides with the de-emphasis on solemnity and the advance of mundane art forms in liturgy -- the popularization of music being the most conspicuous shift. People may say they love to hold hands, dance, and tap their toes at Mass, but this wears thin over time and eventually undermines the rationale for steady devotion. In fact, a 1981-1989 Notre Dame Study of Catholic Parish Life concluded that unrelenting attempts to get people to sing -- especially attempts that employ guitars -- actually increase boredom.
 
There are, however, ways to break with routine and inspire steadfastness and personal attachment to the liturgy. What follows are 14 very simple steps for repairing the weaknesses that mar many U.S. Catholic liturgies. Professional liturgists resist them because of the prevailing bias against anything that smacks of a pre-Vatican II sensibility. Nonetheless, the following suggestions are born of experience and a conviction that the first aim of liturgy is to aid inner reflection.
 
The suggestions below are simple and costless. They need not be implemented all at once. Small changes week by week will make a huge difference over time.
 
 
1. Turn down the volume.
 
It's hard to imagine this today, but Christian liturgy thrived for 1,950 years without microphones, electronic keyboards, amplifiers, mixers, sound technicians, and surround-sound speakers. These days, conventional guidebooks on liturgy emphasize "proclaiming" and broadcasting one's voice. Cantors use microphones as if they're music-video performers.
 
Beyond just being heard, the goal of all these contraptions and behaviors is to make the liturgy ever louder. The results are more often than not earsplitting, creating a sort of stupor. People feel that they're being imposed upon. Most of this, of course, comes about in reaction against the traditional use of the sotto voce -- the under voice -- which has been derided by modern liturgists as silence or whispering so that the people couldn't hear what was going on. Ironically, experts in the advertising world have found that the low voice actually draws out the attention of the listener.
 
The virtue of silence has been rediscovered in recent years, with numerous statements by the late Pope John Paul II and Vatican officials praising its ability to convey meaning in a noisy world. The musical counterpart to silence is not in-your-face pop but distant sounds of contemplation. Turn down the mikes and sing as if the human voice alone is responsible for filling the space. This will diminish the electronic presence in the liturgy and increase the God-given one as a means through which we are worshiping Him.
 
 
2. Chant for a prelude.
 
If you've ever been to an evangelical service, you know that the ten minutes prior to the service are social time. For Catholics, on the other hand, it's a time for prayer and preparation. Keyboard music is common during this time, but imagine something different: simple Latin chant, sung calmly, without affectation, with silence between verses. The simple sounds inspire prayer. A common objection is that people can't understand the words. Yet this isn't the time for pedagogy. It is a time for reflection, to begin to hear the voice of angels who speak in an unfamiliar tongue. The meaning is conveyed in the line of notes. The holy sounds remind people entering the church that they're in a holy place.
 
 
3. Curb the announcements.
 
In an age when the secular world lays claim to most of our time, making a few announcements has become a pastoral necessity. Sunday Mass is often the only opportunity a pastor has to inform his flock concerning parish and community life. Few are lucky enough to have schedules that permit them to go to daily Mass, much less have their children attend Catholic schools, and gone are the days where the parish or church plays a central role in the life of the village.
 
That being the reality, it's wise to adhere closely to the General Instruction of the Roman Missal's directive, inserting announcements after the liturgy of the Eucharist and before the dismissal, where they have the least chance of interrupting the framework of prayer set up by the liturgy. Welcoming statements from cantors or others before the procession even begins have nothing to do with the rite itself and are most likely utterances contrived for the purpose of artificially engaging the attention of the congregation. Announcements should not be made before Mass begins, save concerning matters absolutely necessary to the people's understanding of that particular Mass itself or other issues prudentially suggested by the pastor.
 
Mass doesn't begin because a cantor gets up and proclaims when, where, and how it is to happen. Mass begins when the priest enters the church, with or without a cross bearer, book bearer, lector, or deacon.
 
 
4. Choose plain, traditional hymns for the processional.
 
The first Christian hymns were Psalms, the text of which was already 500 years old when first used, and the melodies handed down from Jewish and Greek traditions. The principle then is the same today: Hymns should bespeak the long tradition of the faith, whether in Latin or in English, in form or in style. Liturgical music that mimics the sound of secular music should be left outside the church.
 
Singable hymns with familiar meters and cadences will tie members of the congregation together in adoration and prayer and to the experience of the whole body of Christ, in all times and all places. Liturgical music exclusively tied to current times and styles cannot accomplish this. More importantly, the sights and sounds of the Mass, although communal in one sense, must ultimately point the individual conscience to the mystery unfolding on the altar.
 
Processional music can also employ the choir alone, a stately piece of polyphony that lets people put down their hymnbooks and watch as the celebrant and altar servers walk forward carrying the crucifix. People should not be so busy with their hands and eyes that they don't notice this beautiful sight. In any case, liturgists make a great mistake in believing that people come to Mass only because they want to sing or that active participation can only take one form.
 
 
5. Sing the Kyrie.
 
One of the earliest and most recognizable parts of the Mass is not in Latin but Greek: the Kyrie. It has long been a living symbol of the unity of Eastern and Western Christendom. And yet for all the bits of music in the Roman Rite, the "Lord, Have Mercy" is most often said, not sung, by the priest and answered by the people. This beautiful passage of the penitential rite begins and is over in less than a few seconds.
 
The Kyrie seems to have taken on a diminished role in the liturgy, but is it too much to ask that a bit more time be taken in this beautiful expression of penance? If active participation in singing is what we desire, the Kyrie can be easily sung by even the least-musical priest or cantor and answered by the faithful. It can be sung in the original Greek. Everyone knows the words. By introducing new music settings according to the liturgical season, variation can be brought to the Mass. It serves at the outset as a reminder of why we have gathered at Mass as a community.
 
 
6. Choose a plainer Gloria.
 
So many thousands of settings of the Gloria are available today that it's a wonder that most parishes use pop versions filled with frippery and faux exuberance. An about-face is in order toward the simpler settings that can be easily learned and sung by all. A simple, English version can tap into traditional, chant-like sensibilities and do much to restore dignity and beauty to this song of praise.
 
A timeless Latin Gloria remains unmatched for the purpose of praising God in the liturgy. If your parish is one where a Latin ordinary is feared, as is the case in many parishes across the country, there's still something that can be done. Attempting the Gloria in Latin can be part of your reformist plan, but it's best to start on a small scale. Congregations can be easily overwhelmed when faced with something the length of the Gloria. The Latin will come in time, should you choose to keep working toward it.
 
An English Gloria may well fit the needs of the congregation on most occasions. Not to be forgotten, however, is that the General Instruction does permit a Gloria sung by the choir alone. You might want to exercise this option and do a plain Latin Gloria on certain feast days only, or perhaps even pull out all of the stops and do a polyphonic version, if rehearsal time and resources permit.
 
 
7. Fix the Psalm.
 
St. John Chrysostom reports that the Christians sang the Psalms unceasingly, and it was the earliest part of Scripture translated into Latin. Their centrality in Christian worship cannot be overestimated. The development of the sung Psalter is central to the development of all Christian music and music itself. What has happened to the Psalms today? Many settings published today sound like miniature versions of jazz ballads, and they're preprinted in the missalettes, giving the impression that these are an ecclesiastical requirement (they're not).
 
The goal might be the restoration of the Latin Psalter (via the Graduale or the Simplex), but that simply isn't viable at most parishes today, nor is any English rendering of the elaborate Gregorian chant readily available. What is possible is that they be done in radically reduced melodic form, without strange intervals or leaps. A simple line consisting of just a few notes is a fitting transition to using psalm tones or something more elaborate. At first, it might seem intimidating, even downright frightening, to abandon the printed line of music. The method is to sense the need for solemnity, and let the ear guide you.
 
The Psalm should begin not with an instrument but a confident single voice. His or her line of notes should be simple enough to be repeated by the people. The verses themselves should not be sung by the entire choir (which makes them sound muddy) but, again, by a single voice, who should think of it as a sung text. That means the singer must enunciate clearly and modulate the voice in a way that uses the space well.
 
 
8. The Offertory should be a time of preparation.
 
During the offertory, the bread and wine are brought forward to prepare us for the Eucharistic Prayer and the Consecration. The music therefore should not overshadow what follows but rather point to the coming sacrifice and prepare us mentally and spiritually.
 
Something quiet and beautiful (again, employing the human voice) is the way. Have the congregation sing a simple hymn, beginning with accompaniment if necessary, allowing the final verse or two to be sung a capella. The keyboard might be of assistance in getting people to sing, but in the long run, the congregation will become more confident if allowed to experience the beauty and mystery of their own voices joining together in preparation for the feast.
 
The offertory is also a good time to familiarize people with the great Latin hymns of the faith. Over the course of a year, the goal can be to cover only a modest number: Ave Maria, Jesu Dulcis, Ave Maris Stella, Ubi Caritas, Attende Domine, Ave Verum, and seasonal chants like Veni Creator and Regina Caeli. With enough repetition, these can be learned by anyone. They really should become part of the life of faith again.
 
 
9. Reduce and simplify the 'Mystery of Faith' and the 'Great Amen.'
 
The settings of these used in parishes are most commonly those put out by the big publishing houses. They tend to have Broadway-type orchestration, to be overdrawn, and to appear suddenly and without warning. Jarring at best, their drama, distilled into five seconds, can compete with the mystery of the Consecration itself. Simple chants sung by the people in a manner that extends from silent prayer are more appropriate.
 
The "Mystery of Faith" was never separate from the Consecration in the "old" Mass, so there is no authentic precedent to light our way. What can be done, however, is to reduce the "Mystery of Faith" to a single, unrepeated line without accompaniment. For that matter, the Amen need not be "great" but rather just two notes.
 
 
10. Shorten the Sign of Peace.
 
Let's be frank: This part of the liturgy, once very formal and reserved to the deacons and subdeacons, can be disconcerting. The minutes after the consecration just seem like a bad time to be required to greet people with a friendly hello or a kiss. The choir can do something about this. Don't let the Sign of Peace go on and on. Just begin the "Lamb of God" right away. Most people will be grateful.
 
 
11. Begin the communion chant (a simple Latin hymn will do) after the priest receives.
 
What to do while waiting for Communion? In parishes, there is no choice: watch in silence as the celebrant gives Communion to the elite laypeople who have been selected as official "eucharistic ministers." That is just not a pleasant sight, so it's best to introduce some music as a way of diverting attention and turning toward inward prayer. The General Instruction recommends that the communion song begin when the priest receives. So it should. And by the choir alone.
 
 
12. Don't force people to sing during communion.
 
Various attempts have been made over the years to get people to sing while they're standing in line or receiving. But these have been a failure. It is a simple fact that people don't want to sing during communion. Here's the archetype when active participation means something other than singing a song. It means receiving the Body of Christ. This is the perfect time for the choir to develop a sense of singing in a sacred manner, quietly and beautifully. Again, chant and polyphony are best, but don't overlook the possibility of a quiet organ piece as well. It should be prayerful, not boisterous. Mostly, people will be glad just to be left alone.
 
 
13. Allow for silence after communion.
 
One of the remarkable aesthetic aspects of the Roman rite is how quickly and suddenly it ends. Only a few minutes pass between the reception of Communion and the time of departure. This is a wonderful time for silence: no music, announcements, children's blessings, or anything. Just prayer.
 
 
14. Don't attempt a rousing good-bye.
 
Mass ends with the words "The Mass is ended," so nothing that happens after that should upstage what came before. The recessional, which is not mandatory, can be exuberant, of course. But many parishes have the problem of a great deal of talking and saying hello taking place after Mass, and upbeat recessionals can only make the problem worse. If the goal is to send people out into the world with a sense of what just took place, a recessional that recalls the quiet power of the whole liturgy is best.
 
 
More Elaborate Suggestions
 
There are other methods for enhancing the sense of solemnity, which really means creating sights and sounds that remind people they're in church. The choir can be in an inauspicious place. Carpet can be pulled up to eliminate the deadness in a room that compels the use of microphones. Traditional polyphony is a great way to add texture to a liturgy dominated by chant. Starting a children's choir is an investment in the future generation of singers and can dispel the impression that Latin is anachronistic or unsingable. Tacky banners can be taken down and replaced with beautiful art and statues from Christian history.
 
All of these changes help a liturgy become rooted in the broad range of Christian experience through the ages and convey the sense that the individual is part of something far larger than one parish or one age.
 
Catholic liturgy, by its nature and structure, cannot provide an imitation form of popular entertainment any more than the rock concert can suitably provide a good medium to encourage a sense of penance and the presence of the sacred. The unrelenting attempt to try and try again can have the unintended effect of causing people to feel manipulated. What's more, the clamor for ever more innovative liturgical enticements is wholly unnecessary.
 
The General Instruction is a worthy guide for achieving solemnity at Mass, and 2,000 years of tradition provide experience enough to prove it. Further proof comes when the liturgy again begins to spark the spiritual imagination and reminds us why we're there.
 
 
 
Musical Reminders from the General Instruction Purpose
 
The Christian faithful who gather together as one to await the Lord's coming are instructed by the Apostle Paul to sing together Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs (cf. Col 3:16). Singing is the sign of the heart's joy (cf. Acts 2:46). Thus Saint Augustine says rightly, "Singing is for one who loves." There is also the ancient proverb: "One who sings well prays twice."
 
 
Goal
 
[All elements of the Mass] should form a complete and organic unity, clearly expressive of the unity of the entire holy people. The character and beauty of the place and all its appointments should foster devotion and show the holiness of the mysteries celebrated there.
 
 
Style
 
All other things being equal, Gregorian chant holds pride of place because it is proper to the Roman liturgy. Other types of sacred music, in particular polyphony, are in no way excluded, provided that they correspond to the spirit of the liturgical action and that they foster the participation of all the faithful.
 
 
Assembly
 
Since the faithful from different countries come together ever more frequently, it is fitting that they know how to sing together at least some parts of the Ordinary of the Mass in Latin…
 
 
Choir/Cantor
 
Among the faithful, the schola cantorum or choir exercises its own liturgical function, ensuring that the parts proper to it, in keeping with the different types of chants, are properly carried out and fostering the active participation of the faithful through the singing. It is fitting that there be a cantor or a choir director to lead and sustain the people's singing. When in fact there is no choir, it is up to the cantor to lead the different chants, with the people taking part.
 
 
Mass Parts
 
The singing at the entrance is done either alternately by the choir and the people or in a similar way by the cantor and the people, or entirely by the people, or by the choir alone. Since the Kyrie is a chant by which the faithful acclaim the Lord and implore his mercy, it is ordinarily done by all, that is, by the people and with the choir or cantor having a part in it. The Gloria is intoned by the priest or, if appropriate, by a cantor or by the choir; but it is sung either by everyone together, or by the people alternately with the choir, or by the choir alone. It is preferable that the responsorial Psalm be sung, at least as far as the people's response is concerned. The Alleluia constitutes a rite or act in itself. It is sung by all while standing, and led by the choir or cantor. The supplication Agnus Dei is, as a rule, sung by the choir or cantor with the congregation responding. While the priest is receiving the Sacrament, the Communion chant is begun. The singing is continued for as long as the Sacrament is being administered to the faithful. This is sung either by the choir alone or by the choir or cantor with the people.


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Arlene Oost-Zinner is president of the St. Cecilia Schola in Auburn, Alabama. Jeffrey Tucker is managing editor of Sacred Music magazine and editor of Mises.org. They can be reached at 
1 posted on 08/18/2009 3:44:35 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

..... Or you can attend an Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy where you will find all of the above, especially a reverent Sign of Peace that brings smiles to all the congregation.


2 posted on 08/18/2009 3:45:47 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Our announcements go on and on. I could see announcing if there’s donuts and coffee afterwards...but other than that we ought just say “READ THE BULLETIN.”

Chanting psalms could be a wonderful thing, but then our organist wouldn’t be able to perform.


3 posted on 08/18/2009 3:49:11 PM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: NYer

This is a good article. I see some points that can be applied to our Spanish liturgy, and some things we’re already doing.

For example, I like the idea of “chant,” or a simple Spanish song ;-), before the Mass “officially” begins. The Spanish-speaking congregation is not used to chant, so this would be a place to have it performed by the choir, without worrying about the congregation’s being flummoxed.

We also have the resources to sing more of the Psalms, which our parish does in the English services, while it hasn’t been the custom in the Spanish Mass. We could start with major feasts and see how it goes over.


4 posted on 08/18/2009 3:50:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
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I so agree with this guy’s 14 ways to improve. I have attended Masses where the Sign of Peace lasts for so long that you have time to offer your hand to everyone there. Also, I REALLY agree with this statement: “Cantors use microphones as if they’re music-video performers.” Please. I am worshipping here, save it for a stage. Singing the Kyrie is pleasing idea, as well.


5 posted on 08/18/2009 3:52:38 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: NYer

I still hope to attend a Maronite Mass some day.

Failing that, I will continue to strap myself into my time machine and attend the traditional Tridentine Rite, the unmodernized and unprotestantized liturgy of centuries past, before other considerations became more “important” than worshiping God.


6 posted on 08/18/2009 3:52:45 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: perez24
Chanting psalms could be a wonderful thing, but then our organist wouldn’t be able to perform.

Not true. Where do you think the term "organum" came from, anyhow?

A good organist can work out a reverent, musically coherent accompaniment for chant that doesn't drown out the choir. Our man does it all the time (of course he is an absolutely stellar organist, quite possibly the best in the city).

7 posted on 08/18/2009 4:00:44 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: perez24
Our announcements go on and on. I could see announcing if there’s donuts and coffee afterwards...but other than that we ought just say “READ THE BULLETIN.”

No matter how many things you post in the Sunday Bulletin, congregants often skip over the important items. Announcements 'reinforce' the key items they should actually read in the bulletin.

Chanting psalms could be a wonderful thing, but then our organist wouldn’t be able to perform.

Our Maronite liturgy is chanted from beginning to end. Our aging organist spends winters (and other extended holidays) in Florida. That leaves the congregation to chant the responses. Father tells us this is the perfect opportunity to give back to God what He gave to us ;-) We sing like the monks who chant without the benefit of an organ. Give it a try!

8 posted on 08/18/2009 4:00:54 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFIkeXQI8nI


9 posted on 08/18/2009 4:01:15 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: NYer
This article is right on the money.

Our music director has already implemented 90% of this.

I hear through the ecclesiastical grapevine that people are coming from all over to hear the music. It's a shame that reverent, authentic Catholic music is so darn rare!

10 posted on 08/18/2009 4:03:28 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tax-chick
I see some points that can be applied to our Spanish liturgy, and some things we’re already doing.

Glad it was helpful. Are you involved in liturgical planning? As I pointed out to another poster, chant does not require an organist. The monks chant using their God given voices ;-)

11 posted on 08/18/2009 4:03:49 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Tax-chick

Announcements - Read the bulletin.

Eucharistic ministers - If you must have them pick the nuns. Otherwise have them partake after the choir. “He who is last shall be first, and the first last”. I would rather wait longer if necessary.

Agree about the songs. Less is more. I come from an evangelical church and it is nice that you have the stillness and quiet.

Dismissal - “Go forth to serve the world.” Exeunt.

Kyrie, yes please.

Sign of peace. I like it but it’s very awkwardly placed. Can it be moved?


12 posted on 08/18/2009 4:05:32 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: NYer

Good suggestions all.


13 posted on 08/18/2009 4:06:02 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: NYer

Great post. If only all our churches would adopt these guidelines. I find myself very distracted at Mass and this would help tremendously.


14 posted on 08/18/2009 4:12:37 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: NYer
Only a few minutes pass between the reception of Communion and the time of departure. This is a wonderful time for silence: no music, announcements, children's blessings, or anything. Just prayer.

Prayer &/or reflection or a moment to say your own "favorite" prayer...But this is my favorite "improvement." Give us a minute to be alone with our thoughts.

15 posted on 08/18/2009 4:14:16 PM PDT by justkate
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To: NYer
Are you involved in liturgical planning?

Yes, we (my husband and I) have quite a lot of influence on the liturgy when we're doing the music. I'm tight with the Hispanic Ministry Coordinator, the Spanish Battleaxe (that's a compliment), and we're on the same page, as it were, with our pastor. There's another musical group that's electronic-pop-charismatic, about one week out of three, and people in the congregation have different preferences which everyone gets a chance to mention.

We can definitely work in some of these suggestions, most of which I like, especially in Advent, Lent, and on major feasts. Last Saturday we played for a Quinceanera - 15th birthday celebration for Mexican girls - and we did the whole Mass for the Assumption of Mary.

The monks chant using their God given voices ;-)

My God-given voice can lead an entire congregation two steps flat, even without a microphone :-). The guitar keeps us all more or less on pitch, and Bill on the Latin percussion more or less on beat.

16 posted on 08/18/2009 4:18:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
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To: AJFavish

ROFL!


17 posted on 08/18/2009 4:19:52 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: BenKenobi
Our nuns are too old to be Eucharistic ministers: one uses a walker, and one has Alzheimers and doesn't always remember where she is. We had a pastor in Texas who had the Eucharistic ministers receive Communion after *everyone* else; he said it made sense to serve the "guests" before the "staff," or something to that effect.

We sing the Kyrie ("Senor, Ten Piedad") in the Spanish Mass, but we have a custom of rousing songs for closing (Salida).

I'm of two minds on this issue: on one hand, as an ex-Presbyterian (old-school, Church of Scotland) I'm used to a more stately liturgy. On the other hand, the spirit of our parish is evangelical and charismatic, and the Spanish-speaking congregation has little experience of old-fashioned music. Depending on where they come from, they might have seen a priest every five years, or even attended Protestant churches, before coming to the US where Catholic churches are easily available. We have to work *for* the people we're serving, under the guidance of our Bishop and pastor (both solid guys), and try to make everyone's experience of Mass better - where "better" means more productive of holy Catholic lives.

18 posted on 08/18/2009 4:28:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
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To: BenKenobi

The sign of peace should be in the Liturgy of the Word.
Who thought it was a good idea to glad handling during the Liturgy of the Eucharist?!?

It’s not about community at that point.


19 posted on 08/18/2009 4:35:37 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom; BenKenobi

I agree. I like the sign of peace - even with enthusiasm! - but it’s in the wrong place.

We sing a song during the sign of peace - “La Paz Este’ Con Nosotros” - and watch what Father and the deacon are doing to see when it’s time to switch to “Cordero de Dios.”


20 posted on 08/18/2009 4:37:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
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