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To: theanonymouslurker
Correct! Since the Catholic Church does not believe Mary to be a divine being or a deity, there's no worship. Glad we agree.

Ever hear of "Queen of Heaven"? The Roman Catholic Church has elevated her to godhood.

Correct! Since the Catholic Church never proclaimed Mary as a deity or anything close for that matter, then we have agreement again.

ibid. Mary has been proclaimed by the Roman Catholic Church as being without sin (Catechism 411, 493). She is also place as co-mediator with Christ (Catechism 968-970, 2677).

Are you the sole arbiter of when expressions of love and honor rise to the level of idolization?

No, never said I was. I was merely giving my interpretation of a scene I have seen many times.

I love my wife to the degree that I would DIE for her. Tell me, do I worship my wife?

By definition, yes. But I am not suggesting you rely on her for your salvation or that you pray to her.

262 posted on 08/17/2009 12:52:37 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon
Ever hear of "Queen of Heaven"?

That's Mary, Mother of God.

The Catholic Church has elevated her to godhood.

Completely false. Exodus 20:16 seems to mean nothing to you.

266 posted on 08/17/2009 12:55:34 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: rjsimmon
Mary has been proclaimed by the Catholic Church as being without sin (Catechism 411, 493). She is also place as co-mediator with Christ (Catechism 968-970, 2677).

None of that is deification. All of it is misinterpreted and distorted by enemies of the Church.

267 posted on 08/17/2009 12:56:54 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: rjsimmon
The Roman Catholic Church has elevated her to godhood.

LOL! That's just silly and is completely contrary to all Catholic doctrine. Do you actually read what you type before you hit the post button?

I was merely giving my interpretation of a scene I have seen many times.

So, at least we've clarified that it is your interpretation. It's just too bad that your interpretation is incorrect.

By definition, yes. But I am not suggesting you rely on her for your salvation or that you pray to her.

Catholics do not rely upon Mary for salvation either. You've created the perfect strawman. Nice work.

289 posted on 08/17/2009 1:19:03 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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