That's because such speculation is entirely unbiblical. It’s a scam that folks will attempt to disavow by weasel-worded statements when it does not come to pass.
Your emperor has no clothes.
Posted on 08/02/2009 7:09:23 PM PDT by TaraP
Matthew 24:36a (NIV) "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
We cannot know the day or the hour for the Second Coming of Jesus following the Seven Year Tribulation Period, because Jesus stated that those days would be "cut short". The Word of God does not state that the Seven Year Tribulation will start late. The Seven Year Tribulation will begin precisely on time, but it will be "cut short".
Matthew 24:21-22 (NIV) For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
The Great Tribulation is "cut short", because if the Great Tribulation were not "cut short", then "no one would survive". The Great Tribulation is "cut short" because if the Great Tribulation were not "cut short", the Antichrist would destroy every single person on earth including himself.
The reason that no one except God the Father knows the day or the hour for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, is that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is determined by that precise point in time when if Jesus did not return, man would destroy all of mankind. The time for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ has not been set by God, that time is determined by man with man's freewill.
No one can predict exactly to the day and the hour when man with man's freewill is going to bring mankind to the precise moment of self-destruction. Only God the Father knows because He is Omniscient (He knows all).
We can however, know very closely when Jesus will return so that the exact day is not a surprise.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 (NIV) But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD WILL PRECEDE THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST BY SEVEN YEARS!
We must subtract seven years from the ONE YEAR WINDOW of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ in order to calculate the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Tribulation period.
That would put the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period from September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah) until September 18, 2009 (Rosh Hashanah).
On September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah), the FIRST DAY of the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period, the stock market fell 777 points, clearly indicating a message from God to the Bride of Christ. I believe that God's message on September 29, 2008 was that the time until the beginning of the Tribulation is close, make certain that you are prepared. (In the Egyptian Tribulation, God attacked the Egyptian's gods. On September 29, 2008 in attacking the stock market, God attacked America's god of money.)
The seven year Tribulation Period began around June 28, 2009 because that was forty-two years from the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD BEGAN ON THURSDAY, 9 JULY, 2009 - THE 17th OF TAMMUZ!
THE 17th OF TAMMUZ IS A HISTORIC DAY OF CALAMITY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE!
1. It was on the 17th of Tammuz that Moses descended from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments and when he saw the Jewish people worshipping a golden calf, he broke the Ten Commandments.
2. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 585 B. C. that the priests from the first Temple stopped offering daily sacrifice because there was a shortage of sheep.
3. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 586 B. C. that Nebuchadnezzar broke through the walls of Jerusalem to conquer the city.
4. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 70 A. D. that the Roman army under Titus breeched the walls of Jerusalem.
5. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1239 A. D. that Pope Gregory IX ordered the confiscation of all of the manuscripts of the Talmud.
6. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1391 A. D. that 4,000 Jewish people were killed in Toledo and Jaen, Spain.
7. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1559 that the Jewish Quarter of Prague was destroyed.
8. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1944 that the Jewish people in the Kovno ghetto were sent to the death camps.
9. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1970 that Libya ordered the confiscation of all Jewish property.
The Seven Year Tribulation Period began with a "peace agreement" on July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz on the Jewish calendar. The "peace agreement" will allow the Jewish people to rebuild their Temple in Jerusalem, in order for the Jewish people to re-establish the ritual of daily sacrifice in their attempt to atone for the Jewish people's sin. Information concerning the existence of that "peace agreement" has not been made available to the general public, as it is necessary for the Islamic governments to prepare the Islamic public for the fact that the Islamic people are going to share the Temple Mount in Jerusalem with the Jewish people; and the government of Israel must prepare the Jewish people to accept the concessions that the Israeli government made in order to facilitate the "peace agreement". There is also a delay while various politicians posture themselves prior to the public announcement of the "peace agreement" in order for the various politicians to claim a percentage of the credit for the "peace agreement". One of the politicians who is posturing himself in order to claim credit for the "peace agreement" is Barack Hussein Obama. We are in a very short time period before information concerning the "peace agreement" must be made available to the general public, as the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt and completed, and daily sacrifice will begin following sundown on March 15, 2010. The Jewish day begins at sundown, consequently sundown on March 15, 2010 is the beginning of the Jewish day of March 16, 2010. March 16, 2010 is the 1st of Nisan, the first day of the new Jewish sacred calendar year of 5770. The Jewish people will re-establish daily sacrifice in the new Jewish Temple on the first day of their new sacred year of 5770. March 16, 2010, the 1st of Nisan is also exactly 250 days after July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz, the day on which the "peace agreement" was agreed to. The 17th of Tammuz has been a historic day of calamity for the Jewish people. July 9, 2009 was still another day of great calamity for the Jewish people, but the Jewish people will not recognize it as a day of great calamity until 1,260 days later on December 21, 2012.
The second order to rebuild Jerusalem occurred on June 28, 1967. The Jewish people declared themselves to be the State of Israel on May 14, 1948. However, Jerusalem was not completely in Israeli control until 1967. During the "Six Day War" of 1967, Israel captured the Old City of Jerusalem which included the Temple Mount. On June 7, 1967 Jerusalem came back under Jewish control for the first time in almost 1900 years. On June 28, 1967 the Knesset passed a "decree" annexing East Jerusalem, and thereby bringing the entire city of Jerusalem back into Jewish control.
On September 17, 1978, Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel put forth in a letter to United States President Jimmy Carter, the date of 28 June 1967 as the date that the Israeli Knesset passed legislation that empowered the Knesset to control Jerusalem.
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The President Camp David Thurmont, Maryland 17 September 1978
Dear Mr. President:
I have the honor to inform you, Mr. President, that on 28 June 1967 - Israel's parliament (The Knesset) promulgated and adopted a law to the effect: "the Government is empowered by a decree to apply the law, the jurisdiction and administration of the State to any part of Eretz Israel (Land of Israel - Palestine), as stated in that decree."
On the basis of this law, the government of Israel decreed in July 1967 that Jerusalem is one city indivisible, the capital of the State of Israel.
Sincerely, Menachem Begin
You were VERY clear and I was just having some fun.
Notice that I AM not predicting the day or the hour,
just the holiday on which it might occur. As the
feast of the tabernacle lasts for seven days, should
Jesus return during this feast, one would not know
the EXACT day or hour. We are commanded to be aware
of the season... it will be rainy and dark with storm
clouds. I’m thinking the fall harvest, which “falls”
right in the time (Sep to Oct), when the Feast of the
Tabernacle is celebrated.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Can-You-See-Christ-in-the-Feast-of-the-Tabernacles?&id=109782
The Feast of the Ingathering speaks of a harvest and agricultural celebration. Revelation 14:115 tells us of His great harvest. “Take your sickle and reap for the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” Just as Jesus came to plant the seed for salvation, He too will return for the harvest.
http://www.bible-truth.org/Feasts-Tabernacles.html
Picking Gnits...
Cool... :-)
Christ once returned through a closed door. You think He'll need an open window?
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Mark 13:32).”
But some arrogant boys think they can determine the month? LOL
Thank you for passing it along. It's something I was unfamiliar with.
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I’m expecting Christ to return when The Father tells Him to and not a moment before nor after.
Last I checked
Day nor hour
are DIFFERENT
i.e. NOT THE SAME
as
month.
You have my best wishes for your future. Having said, and meant, that, one does hope you will at least learn to avoid your persistent name-calling at some point. I shall pray for that, if it is not too "arrogant" of me to do so.
What logic? The author said “We can however, know very closely when Jesus will return so that the exact day is not a surprise. “. That is counter to scripture as stated in Mark.
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Mark 13:32). Seems pretty clear to me.
“for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.” (Thessalonians 5:2-4)
The Thessalonians passage tells us Jesus will come like a thief in the night. No one can predict when a thief strikes. This last sentence doesn’t mean man should be able to predict when the steps preceding Christ’s return will occur (as Mark states that is impossible for even Jesus Christ Himself) but rather when the “Day of the Lord” actually occurs - Christ’s return - we won’t be surprised.
Be prepared at any time - that’s the message. No need for the rest of the nonsense in this article purporting to play God and predict the future. Countless fools have claimed to do that in the past and they were all wrong. God’s Word is enough for me.
That fits (does not violate) what Jesus said.
It completely violates Mark and Thessalonians. Jesus said he will come like a thief in the night and no one will know when - not even Him. It is extremely clear.
By the way, has it occurred to you that you may be mistaken about your insistence on Jesus' claim? You have said repeatedly that Jesus does (present tense) not know when--only the Father does. That was certainly true when He said it--He did (past tense) not know then, but is it still true? Perhaps the Father has since revealed it to the Son; indeed, I would be surprised if He has not! We have no data about that, even though you keep insisting on it. What is your view?
Well I am not privy to ‘conversations’ between the Father and the Son. The Mark quote did not refer to Jesus but rather the ‘Son’. This was clearly speaking of the second person of the Trinity - the Son of God. That’s enough for me without wandering into Revelations 22:18 territory.
The important thing for all of us to constantly remind ourselves of is that we must be ready at any moment. I see no use in trying to supposedly break some code which apparently doesn’t exist since not even the Son knows it.
Oh hear you are...Yes I know this would be your response...:)
One does not need to know even an approximtate date of Jesus’ return in order to NOT be surprised when it happens. In fact, that is the nature of the Christian life - living in constant readiness for His return. Believe me, there is nothing “lazy, lackadaisical or lukewarm” about that.
It seems to me that the people who may be the most surprised are those who are obsessed with date-watching and guessing, quite simply becasue they have taken their eyes off the prize.
Why do you post this trash? No one knows the hour of Christ’s return, only his Father. You may as well post some Palin divorce stories while you’re at it.
That's because such speculation is entirely unbiblical. It’s a scam that folks will attempt to disavow by weasel-worded statements when it does not come to pass.
Your emperor has no clothes.
“Therefore you [Jesus’ disciples] also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you [Jesus’ disciples] do not expect.” (Matt. 24:44)
Anyone who tells you differently is scamming you, including the author of this bit of whimsy.
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