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To: Cvengr

***Every time a priest is called ‘Father’ by another believer in Christ, the person being placed before God and being called ‘Father’ is allowing and promoting himself to be placed as the object of false worship.***

Let us see what Paul has to say about that. 1 Cor 4:
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I am writing you this not to shame you, but to admonish you as my beloved children. 5
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Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
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Therefore, I urge you, be imitators of me.
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For this reason I am sending you Timothy, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord;

Paul calls himself the father in Christ and the Corinthians and Timothy are his children.

Paul says in Philemon:
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I urge you on behalf of my child Onesimus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment,
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who was once useless to you but is now useful 10 to (both) you and me.

that he is the father of Onesimus. Even Peter does it. 1 Peter 5:
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The chosen one at Babylon sends you greeting, as does Mark, my son.

Therefore either you are interpreting Scripture wrong or else both Peter and Paul (first great leaders of the Church) are wrong. Do you have any thoughts on the matter?


431 posted on 08/05/2009 4:17:08 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

KJV+ 1Cor 4:15 ForG1063 thoughG1437 ye haveG2192 ten thousandG3463 instructorsG3807 inG1722 Christ,G5547 yetG235 have ye notG3756 manyG4183 fathers:G3962 forG1063 inG1722 ChristG5547 JesusG2424 IG1473 have begottenG1080 youG5209 throughG1223 theG3588 gospel.G2098

Looks to me as though Paul begat through the gospel, not by himself as a father.


434 posted on 08/05/2009 10:37:46 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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