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The Madness of Harold Camping (The founder of FAMILY RADIO keep setting dates for Christ's return)
Exposing Darkness ^ | July 2009 | Robert Gianserra

Posted on 07/31/2009 11:00:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: BibChr
Amills say the darnedest things.

You're not shouting at me, and raving about the nephelim. That's good.

21 posted on 07/31/2009 2:09:23 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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To: Lee N. Field

Um... huh?


22 posted on 07/31/2009 2:10:59 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this “Family Radio” the shortwave station from Scituate, Massachusetts and Lake Okeechobee, Florida?


23 posted on 07/31/2009 2:37:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shema` Yisra'el, HaShem 'Eloqeynu, HaShem 'Echad!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They have stations worldwide.

See here :

http://www.familyradio.com/


24 posted on 07/31/2009 2:40:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep, that’s the one. WYFR. They and HCJB (”The Voice of the Andes”) in Quito, Ecuador were the two main Fundamentalist Protestant shortwave stations back when I used to listen and collect QSL cards. I think the Internet has now sort of made shortwave obsolete.


25 posted on 07/31/2009 2:47:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shema` Yisra'el, HaShem 'Eloqeynu, HaShem 'Echad!)
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To: Alex Murphy
Love your tagline ("Dispensationalists Say The Darndest Things!"). There's been at least one post defending Camping on another thread. I wonder if we'll get any technicolor commentary in defense of Harold Camping?

Sure, why not...

I don't know anything about this guy but on this particular topic, I can not see where believing Jesus will return on one day as opposed to another will have even the least bit to do with the salvation of that believer...

I mean it's not like this guy is telling people they have a place in heaven because someone dripped some water on them and they ate a cracker named God...

26 posted on 07/31/2009 5:36:28 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
....on this particular topic, I can not see where believing Jesus will return on one day as opposed to another will have even the least bit to do with the salvation of that believer....

You and me both, friend. You and me both.

27 posted on 07/31/2009 6:10:12 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: SeekAndFind

(In your deepest rumbling, tumbling, graveliest voice)”. . . and thank you for sharing.”


28 posted on 07/31/2009 9:30:11 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Iscool
I mean it's not like this guy is telling people they have a place in heaven because someone dripped some water on them and they ate a cracker named God...

The man also holds a lot of strange beliefs.

Camping teaches that “the work of the church is finished,” and that those who remain in the church, during the time of the on-coming “tribulation,” will be destroyed. He thus bids the faithful to flee the church. He goes so far as to suggest that if one were to find a church “where it appears that each and every doctrine they hold is faithful to the Word of God,” it should be avoided — if one hopes to escape the impending destruction.

Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

So, do you go to church ? If you do, according to Camping, you won't escape the impending destruction.

Camping also teaches that there will be no eternal damnation of the unsaved but they will simply be annihilated. Camping also teaches that Jesus, as the Christ, died before the foundation of the earth, and then BECAME the Son of God upon His resurrection: the cross then is just a "representation" of what He did in eternity past!

The cross does not pay for sin, as that was done prior to the Incarnation! This incredibly absurd belief, which overthrows every possible part of the Bible's teaching on the cross, the incarnation, atonement, etc., is just another example of the fact that once you are cut loose from the foundation of Scripture, there is no end of the silliness you can end up promoting.
29 posted on 08/01/2009 10:03:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

OK...Sounds like a real wingnut...


30 posted on 08/01/2009 10:31:02 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: SeekAndFind
the cross then is just a "representation" of what He did in eternity past!

Hmmm. That sounds like....

31 posted on 08/02/2009 5:10:52 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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To: SeekAndFind
This man is a prophet of the devil. He has been assigned to spread nothing but lies and propaganda.

No one can determine the end of time other than the Lord himself. He knows when and according to the bible, we will know that it is time when it actually gets here. This is repeated a number of times in the New Testament.

He is a rude and obnoxious man who needs to be taken off the air for immoral and outrageous behavior. How could a religious program like this continue to have him on the air. They need to find someone who is morally and ethically correct to take over and make it worth listening to.

32 posted on 10/23/2009 4:05:45 AM PDT by mamalynn42
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To: mamalynn42

The problem with Harold Camping is he is at this point in time, UNTEACHABLE.

Years after his first debacle ( he predicted Christ would return in 1994 and wrote a book about it ), pastors, teachers and elders have all tried to reach out to him to stop this madness. They’ve tried to counsel him, advise him, warn him at first privately, then publicly, to no avail.

One of them is Dr. James White, who actually challenged him to a public debate. You can hear portions of the debate here :

http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/MP3-Audio—Multimedia/All-North-American-Speakers-Messages/James-White/James-R-White-vs-Harold-Camping-Debate/

He not only refused to listen, he also continued to add strange doctrines to his teachings, chief among them is that the churches have ALL become apostate and it is useless to attend ANY of them at all.

It’s sad really as his radio station still airs some very good programs ( except his own teachings ). It is one of the very few stations in the country that still plays good old fashion traditional hymns as opposed to the Christian Contemporary Music we hear in a lot of stations.


33 posted on 10/23/2009 7:46:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind

Man I think he really has gone crazy. I listened to him in 1989-1991 and he was nothing like this. I actually learned stuff from him.


34 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:28 PM PST by kaltrop
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To: DarthVader

harold campinbg is a senile old fool! i wouldnt beleive him if h said the sun came up in the morning peopel ahve nothing to do with him and do not supporet him


35 posted on 01/09/2010 10:23:38 PM PST by pklinge
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To: SeekAndFind

What you say is very true. Here is the confirmation for the scenario you stated very well. Paul to Titus Chpt. 3:8-11

8The saying is sure I desire that you insist on these things, so that those who have come to believe in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works; these things are excellent and profitable to everyone. 9But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10After a first and second admonition, have nothing more to do with anyone who causes divisions, 11 since you know that such a person is perverted and sinful, being self-condemned.


36 posted on 01/10/2010 9:56:05 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: DarthVader

I wonder what will become of his ministry when May 21,2011 ( the exact date he predicts Christ will return ) comes and goes away and nothing happens.

Will the true believers in his ministry still stay ?


37 posted on 01/10/2010 12:54:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet he will have a large falling away except for the weirdos and extremely deluded malcontents.


38 posted on 01/10/2010 2:45:56 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also someone needs to share with old Howold II Peter 2 where St. Peter takes to task false teachers where old Howold is because he knows what the true gospel message is and has departed from the faith into cultism.


39 posted on 01/10/2010 2:50:05 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Iscool

I heard Harold again yesterday afternoon.

He’s convinced the Rapture will occur 21May, but this time he simply leaves off the year. In his mind everybody will only be thinking about death and misery after 21 May.

I think he is on the wrong track, but it would be interesting to see his take on verses such as nobody shall know the day or the hour.


40 posted on 04/17/2010 1:14:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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