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NAsbU Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,

If you are confident in your knowledge of the scripture, present the facts, and you have then no need to boast about who is "ignorant" of the scriptures. The facts will speak for themselves.

That which was "soon" to take place was the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D.-- a decisive event in the First Jewish-Roman war.

when Jerusalem was destroyed in A.D. 70, it was an act of God's judgment and fulfilled the prophecies that Christ spoke of in His Olivet Discourse recorded in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. This event signaled the Second Coming of the Messiah as well, spiritually.

The Book of Revelation does not have predictive value in the way premillenialists claim it does. Its predictions have already come to pass, when God judged Israel for their rejection of the Messiah, so that He was made to completely and finally break from them and their rebellious ways. Consequently, it is the Church which has come to replace Israel as the chosen people.

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The Book of Revelation does not have predictive value in the way premillenialists claim it does. Its predictions have already come to pass, when God judged Israel for their rejection of the Messiah, so that He was made to completely and finally break from them and their rebellious ways. Consequently, it is the Church which has come to replace Israel as the chosen people
NO. It has not. Read Romans 9-12. We have not replaced them. We have been grafted in. Read Zechariah 12-14. They will return.

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Consequently, it is the Church which has come to replace Israel as the chosen people.

You might want to ask the Ru'ach HaKodesh to illuminate Romans 11.

Very specifically: Romans 11 where Paul discusses who is grafted into whom.

NAsbU Romans 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off,
and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them
and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree,


NAsbU Romans 11:19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off
so that I might be grafted in."

Paul warns against the pride of a Gentile follower of Yah'shua.

NAsbU Romans 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God;
to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness,
if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off.

NAsbU Romans 11:23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief,
will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

A Jew who comes to know the Jewish Messiah for their salvation
does not become a Christian,
They become a "called out one", a member of the Ekklesia.
They become a Messianic Jew.
The L-rd's name ( SHEM ) is not je-zeus;
it is Yah'shua ( YHvH is my salvation )


NAsbU Romans 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

Which is why you must call on His Name for salvation.
See Exod. 15:2; 2 Sam. 23:5; Job 19:25 Ps. 18:2; 19:14; 62:1, 7; 118:14 Isa. 12:2; Isa 49:6; Isa 54:8

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach