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To: Iscool

******Notice the terminology here, too. All things were created in Him. Not by Him. All things were created through Him and for Him and not by Him.
9 and to bring to light [for all] 5 what is the plan of the mystery hidden from ages past in God who created all things,

Sorry Charlie...I see you’re quoting the Douay Rheims book***

My name is not Charlie. It’s Mark. And I’m quoting the NAB.

***Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Not only is it clear in the Majority Texts that Paul wrote that Jesus was the creator, ***

It says that God the Father created all things. And even so, it does not claim the divinity of Jesus.

But even so; where is the claim of divinity? There is the claim of creation with God the Father creating through Jesus. Paul does not say that Jesus is divine anywhere and it cannot be derived except through Church interpretation.


1,689 posted on 10/26/2009 5:34:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
But even so; where is the claim of divinity?

What do you mean, but even so...You just went thru a big diatribe claiming that there was no divinity shown for Jesus because creation wasn't BY Jesus, but For Jesus...

You have been shown you are wrong and all you can say is 'But even so???

It's time for you to man up on that issue and move along...

The scripture says God was the Creator...The scripture says Jesus was the Creator...That with tons of other confirming verses make it impossible to conclude the scripture doesn't reveal the Trinity...

You're so caught up in the fallacy that your religion can not err, you completely ignore what the scripture say...

The Trinity is all over the scripture and as such, Jesus is Divine...

1,691 posted on 10/27/2009 5:06:23 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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