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To: roamer_1

***And if the Pentecostals can’t get the belief in God correct, how can you call yourselves believers?

Since when is personal belief dependent upon bricks and mortar?***

Personal belief may or may not coincide with Christianity.

***Why would personal belief depend upon some organization beyond the local gathering of Christians?***

Firstly, now do you know that they are Christians? Secondly, groups such as the Oneness Pentecostals claim to be Christians yet clearly are not. Thirdly, the Church is the only organization authorized to compile doctrine and to teach.

***It is the Spirit who sanctions.***

I will show you Scripture that sanctions the Church. Where is your personal sanction? Can you photocopy it and post an image on this thread pleasea?


1,542 posted on 10/23/2009 10:50:19 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Personal belief may or may not coincide with Christianity.

Bricks and mortar may or may not coincide with Christianity.

Firstly, now do you know that they are Christians?

It is the Spirit who sanctions.

Secondly, groups such as the Oneness Pentecostals claim to be Christians yet clearly are not.

According to you. It is the Spirit who sanctions. While I find errors in their doctrine, I find more error in Catholicism, and even Calvinism (my own historical roots).

The Spirit moves upon the Oneness churches. They see the gifts of the Spirit in their churches regularly. That means more to me than any doctrinal error does.

Thirdly, the Church is the only organization authorized to compile doctrine and to teach.

Agreed. But then one must determine the identity of the Church.

I will show you Scripture that sanctions the Church.

Sure. and I will show you Scripture that shows that the Spiritual gifts show the Presence in the Church (IOW prove the Church). Anyone can hang up a sign and throw up some pews...

Where is your personal sanction? Can you photocopy it and post an image on this thread pleasea?

Why?

1,619 posted on 10/23/2009 4:14:10 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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