[iowamark]

The Byzantines held out against the Muslims for 800 years. How long will we last? 80?

[FlorianG]

At this rate I’d say even less than that. We already have one for a President no?

[antiRepublicrat]

The Byzantines held out against the Muslims for 800 years. How long will we last? 80?

We've already lasted 200. IMHO, the clock started ticking when Jefferson kicked butt on the Barbary Pirates.