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To: BuckeyeTexan
The Greek text used in translating the NT was an eclectic one. No other piece of ancient literature has such an abundance of manuscript witnesses as does the NT. Where existing manuscripts differ, the translators made their choise of readings according to accepted principles of NT textual critism. Footnotes call attention to places where there was uncertainty about what the original text was. The best current texts of the Greek NT were used.

There is a HUGE difference between 'differences in translation' and outright fabrication and adding additional verses, many years later. Who is responsible for these fabricated/additional verses being added?

The following comprises a very small sampling of words, phrases, and verses that were not in the original Greek texts of the New Testament:

Mat 18:11 (NASB)
[a](A)For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.]

Footnotes:

  1. Matthew 18:11 Early mss do not contain this v

Mat 23:14 (NASB)
14
["[a]Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because (A)you devour widows' houses, and for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you will receive greater condemnation.]

Footnotes:

  1. Matthew 23:14 This verse not found in early mss

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB) Example of the authors trying to force the fulfillment of prophecy.
35 After crucifying Him they divided His clothes by casting lots. (A) [a]

Footnotes:

  1. Matthew 27:35 Other mss add that what was spoken by the prophet might be fulfilled: "They divided My clothes among them, and for My clothing they cast lots."

Mar 7:16  (NASB)
16["[a]If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear."]

Footnotes:

  1. Mark 7:16 Early mss do not contain this verse

Mar 11:26 (NASB)
26
["[a](A)But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions."]

Footnotes:

  1. Mark 11:26 Early mss do not contain this v

 Mar 15:28 (NASB) (another example of trying to force the fulfillment of prophecy)
28
[[a]And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "And He was numbered with transgressors."]

Footnotes:

  1. Mark 15:28 Early mss do not contain this v

Mar 16:9-20  Amplified Bible (AMP)
9[a]Now Jesus, having risen [[b]from death] early on the first day of the week, appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had driven out seven demons.
10 She went and reported it to those who had been with Him, as they grieved and wept.
11 And when they heard that He was alive and that she had seen Him, they did not believe it.
12 After this, He appeared in a different form to two of them as they were walking [along the way] into the country.
13 And they returned [to Jerusalem] and told the others, but they did not believe them either.
14 Afterward He appeared to the Eleven [apostles themselves] as they reclined at table; and He reproved and reproached them for their unbelief (their lack of faith) and their hardness of heart, because they had refused to believe those who had seen Him and looked at Him attentively after He had risen [[c]from death].
15 And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach and publish openly the good news (the Gospel) to every creature [of the whole [d]human race].
16 He who believes [who adheres to and trusts in and relies on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] and is baptized will be saved [[e]from the penalty of eternal death]; but he who does not believe [who does not adhere to and trust in and rely on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] will be condemned.
17 And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;
18 They will pick up serpents; and [even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well.
19 So then the Lord Jesus, after He had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and He sat down at the right hand of God.(A)
20 And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message by the attesting signs and miracles that closely accompanied [it]. Amen (so be it).

Footnotes:

  1. Mark 16:9 Some of the earliest manuscripts do not contain verses 9-20.
 (A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, Second Edition, by Bruce Metzger, 1993, page 105-106 - [United Bible Societies]) writes, "On the basis of good external evidence and strong internal considerations it appears that the earliest ascertainable form of the Gospel of Mark ended with 16.8. "

 Luk 9:55-56 (NASB)
55
But He turned and rebuked them, [and said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;
56 for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."]
And they went on to another village.

Footnotes:

  1. Luke 9:55 Some manuscripts add this to verse 55 and continue into verse 56.

 

Luk 17:36  (NASB)
36["[a](A)Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left."]

Footnotes:

  1. Luke 17:36 Early mss do not contain this verse

 Luk 23:17 (NASB)
17[[a]Now he was obliged to release to them at the feast one prisoner.]

Footnotes:

  1. Luke 23:17 Early mss do not contain this verse

 John 5:4 (NASB)
3 In these lay a multitude of those who were sick, blind, lame, and withered, [[a]waiting for the moving of the waters;
 4 for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool and stirred up the water; whoever then first, after the stirring up of the water, stepped in was made well from whatever disease with which he was afflicted.]

Footnotes:

  1. John 5:3 Early mss do not contain the remainder of v 3, nor v 4

Joh 7:53-8:11 (AMP)

53[a]And they went [back], each to his own house.

  John 8  1BUT JESUS went to the Mount of Olives.

    2 Early in the morning (at dawn), He came back into the temple [[b]court], and the people came to Him in crowds. He sat down and was teaching them,

    3 When the scribes and Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery. They made her stand in the middle of the court and put the case before Him.

    4 Teacher, they said, This woman has been caught in the very act of adultery.

    5 Now Moses in the Law commanded us that such [women--offenders] shall be stoned to death. But what do You say [to do with her--what is Your sentence]?(A)

    6 This they said to try (test) Him, hoping they might find a charge on which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger.

    7 However, when they persisted with their question, He raised Himself up and said, Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.

    8 Then He bent down and went on writing on the ground with His finger.

    9 They listened to Him, and then they began going out, conscience-stricken, one by one, from the oldest down to the last one of them, till Jesus was left alone, with the woman standing there before Him in the center of the court.

    10 When Jesus raised Himself up, He said to her, Woman, where are your accusers? Has no man condemned you?

    11 She answered, No one, Lord! And Jesus said, I do not condemn you either. Go on your way and from now on sin no more.

   

Footnotes:John 7:53 John 7:53 to 8:11 is absent from most of the older manuscripts.

(A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, Second Edition, by Bruce Metzger, 1993, page 187-189 - [United Bible Societies]) writes that there is overwhelming and conclusive evidence that the text from John 7:53 to John 8:11 was not part of the original text of John. It was absent from important early and diverse New Testament manuscripts.


Act 8:37 (NASB)
37
[[a]And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."]

Footnotes:

  1. Acts 8:37 Early mss do not contain this verse

Act 9:6
5
And Saul said, Who are You, Lord? And He said, I am Jesus, Whom you are persecuting. [a]It is dangerous and it will turn out badly for you to keep kicking against the goad [to offer vain and perilous resistance].
6
Trembling and astonished he asked, Lord, what do You desire me to do? The Lord said to him, But arise and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.

Footnotes:

  1. Acts 9:5 Many manuscripts do not contain this portion of verse 5 and the first part of verse 6.


Act 15:34 (NASB)
[a]But it seemed good to Silas to remain there.]

Footnotes:

  1. Acts 15:34 Early mss do not contain this v

 Act 24:6-8 (NASB)
6
"And he even tried to (A)desecrate the temple; and then we arrested him. [[a]We wanted to judge him according to our own Law.
7 "But Lysias the commander came along, and with much violence took him out of our hands,
8 ordering his accusers to come before you.]
By examining him yourself concerning all these matters you will be able to ascertain the things of which we accuse him."

Footnotes:

  1. Acts 24:6 The early mss do not contain the remainder of v 6, v 7, nor the first part of v 8


Act 28:29  (NASB)
29
[[a]When he had spoken these words, the Jews departed, having a great dispute among themselves.]

Footnotes:

  1. Acts 28:29 Early mss do not contain this v

Rom 16:24 (NASB)
[a]The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.]

Footnotes:

  1. Romans 16:24 Early mss do not contain this v


58 posted on 07/23/2009 12:16:13 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Yes, there is a difference and I acknowledged such by including an example from Luke of a verse that was not included in some early manuscripts, but was included in others. So if there are multiple versions of Luke's Gospel or Paul's letters to the various churches, that would lead one to believe people hand copied those letters to share them with others since the original letter was likely not passed around - or it would have been damaged, lost or destroyed.

So years later, in compiling the NT, one would encounter differences among the various copies of Paul's letters. How to resolve those differences and come up with one master version for the NT? I'm guessing consensus opinion and the extent to which the multiple versions differed played a significant factor in resolving those issues. If three versions did not include a verse and one did, logic would dictate that the verse be excluded and a note made about the verse.

Certainly the Catholic Church had much to do with the compilation, but where did they compile the NT from? Are you telling me that the CC is in possession of the one and only original version of every letter Paul wrote?

67 posted on 07/23/2009 12:42:19 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: ET(end tyranny)

Every religion, and religious texts, are the inventions of the mind of Man.


76 posted on 07/23/2009 2:21:08 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Footnotes:John 7:53 John 7:53 to 8:11 is absent from most of the older manuscripts.

There are not that many older manuscripts...And just because manuscripts are old doesn't mean they are better...

Did the older manuscripts that do not contain these words originate out of Egypt, or around the area the Apostles traveled in???

95 posted on 07/23/2009 4:59:50 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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