Posted on 07/23/2009 9:03:49 AM PDT by kevinrbranson
Now here is an example of really opening the text using exegesis rather than using traditions of men to construct doctrine. Thank you for the great post. The Vatican should repent for its continuous misuse of Scripture.
No one believes Scripture fell from heaven. It was written by Godly men who were led by inspiration of the Holy Ghost, preserved by God’s protection through the ages.
If the Bible just ‘appeared’, who would believe it ?
IB4TZ!
The reason why such gnostic Gospels are not in the Bible is because the Catholic Church rejected them - on the authority given it by Christ.
But if the Church did not have the authority to do this, then why don't self-confessed Bible-believing Christians believe in the clay birds?
Do you believe that it was inspired by God or the Catholic church? The scriptures were around long before the Catholic church - Jesus himself quoted them. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, etc. wrote the NT letters, not the Catholic church. The NT doesn’t teach that Catholic Bishops replaced the Apostles.
For what reason would this OP be zotted?
2 Timothy 3:14-17. The gnostic Gospels and writings coming after that time are not needed.
Could Christ have turned clay into birds? Did He do that? Haven’t a clue - no more of a stretch than water into wine or raising Lazarus! But it does not add to the message of Christ, and if it was written or started to be taught after the time of Timothy’s infancy, it’s not needed.
This is an “open” thread in the Religion Forum posted by a newbie. The article is not ZOT material and the poster has not behaved like a troll and therefore I have not ZOTTED him.
Thank you for your courteous response. I thought it was a good article.
Who decided what books were inspired, inerrant, and infallible and deemed them, therefore, the Word of God and worthy to be included in the Canon of Scripture?
I cringe too when a few men wearing robes and pointy hats get together and swing some smoke around, fondle a few beads and then decide they’ve had a revelation that some guy should be a Christian leader. :-)
No man is "another Christ." An "alter Christus."
The very definitions of priest and pope impugn the Triune God from which mysticism, tyranny and superstition follow.
"For what is more consonant with faith than to recognize that we are naked of all virtue, in order to be clothed by God? That we are empty of all good, to be filled by him? That we are slaves of sin, to be freed by him? Blind, to be illumined by him? Lame, to be made straight by him? Weak, to be sustained by him? To take away from us all occasion for glorying, that he alone may stand forth gloriously and we glory in him [cf. I Cor. 1:31; II Cor. 10:17]?" -- John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, "Prefatory Address to King Francis," p. 13.
No "other Christ" required.
Absolutely! And we may add, “Dead, to be made alive by Him.” Go John.
There are many Godly men responsible for the Scriptural Canon. Peter and Paul were 2 of the originators.
I’m interested in who you think decided Scriptural Canon.
Long time no see. Hope all is well for you. :)
Just as the Lord God Almighty inspired the words written, so also did he ensure the books that were eventually included in the Bible. Be not deceived or led astray by the authority claimed by any man. All authority on this Earth is granted by the Lord God Almighty to serve his purpose, which only he knows!
Did He ensure the errors made in their translation?
No that was man’s doing. The original Hebrew and Greek texts are inerrant.
Just a related note:
I understood that “books” themselves were not canonized, but rather authors deemed by consensus of the knowledgeable to have a spirit of prophecy (or Holy Spirit) had their writings included. Others, regardless of how edifying, were excluded.
Perhaps I have misunderstood?
Was it not man/men that wrote down the words written in the Hebrew and Greek?
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