You--- There have always been sinners and always will be. There were always some who lost faith in Christ as well. Judas was still an apostle even though he planned to betray Christ. Simon Magus was still a baptized Christian at one poit even though he clearly fell and left the Church.
Sorry...I didn't say sinners...I said unbelievers...Just because someone got wet doesn't mean he/she believes in anything...And just because someone is born into a religion and attends the services doesn't mean he/she believes in Jesus...
It would be impossible for an unbeliever to be a member of the Body of Jesus Christ...Therefore, it's impossible that your religion is the One True Church...
Me--- “Jesus did not establish a church to bring people to Him...”
You--- Yes, actually He did. Hence, the Great Commission. That’s why He said “Go” to the Apostles rather than, “They’ll come to you.”
Again, you're wrong...Jesus sent the disciples into the world to preach the Good News of the Gospel...The Good News of the Gospel is not to join the church but to believe on Jesus Christ...
Jesus never said, 'Join the church'...Jesus said that people that believed on Him were added to the church...NOT the other way around...
Me--- “The people that turned to Him ARE the church...”
You---The Church told them about Jesus FIRST.
So what's that prove??? Nothing...Lots of people talk about Jesus who have not been indwelt with the Holy Spirit and are NOT in Christ...Being religious does not equal being in the Body of Christ...
You guys have said yourselves that when a nonbeliever or someone unworthily dissolves the little cracker in his/her mouth, that the operation, whatever it may be, 'doesn't take'...Even if the person has been baptized...
That right there is an admission that yours could not be the One True Church because you allow non believers into the membership of your church...There can be NO unbelievers in the 'church'...Impossible...
Because God can only do what YOU--Iscool--can understand?
LOL
Riiiight.
I see vicious Klan-worthy anti-Catholic hatred is alive and well.
Just as the ‘church’ is the body of believers in Christ, so is the concept that the Holy Spirit only indwells a true believer. God knows the heart and only He can see if faith is genuine.
Church membership (meaning a particular religion) profits no one. We are assured of our place in heaven when we die because the Holy Spirit was given to us as a down-payment. We are “sealed” with the Holy Spirit and, as such, can never be lost again. Jesus said he would lose nothing and no one can pluck us out of our Father's hand.