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To: r9etb

Nope. Necessary in terms of the car would include all that was required to make it go. That would be parts, accessories, fuel, etc. that are “necessary.”

Had an older gentleman in one of the churches early in my ministry who would always include in his prayers a line about God granting us what we need, but not necessarily what we wanted.

He realized that what we “needed” would get us there. He also recognized that some of the perks were nice, but they weren’t needed.


80 posted on 07/16/2009 9:17:28 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: xzins
Nope. Necessary in terms of the car would include all that was required to make it go. That would be parts, accessories, fuel, etc. that are “necessary."

Actually, Necessary and sufficient are two different, though often complementary concepts.

Fuel is obviously necessary for your car to run. It is just as obviously not, in itself, sufficient for your car to run.

When we talk about knowing the word of God, is the Bible both necessary and sufficient as a means of knowing God's word? Or, as the authors of this article might ask, can we take Scripture as our only guide to God's word?

Again, even Scripture (e.g., John 5:39-40) says that the Bible is not "sufficient" in the technical sense of the word -- why would God bother sending a Holy Spirit if it were? The Bible is, however, clearly necessary.

The authors are correct in saying, "He who believes in Scripture as his only guide ends by believing in his own mistaken interpretations of the Bible, and that means that he ends by believing in himself."

Had an older gentleman in one of the churches early in my ministry who would always include in his prayers a line about God granting us what we need, but not necessarily what we wanted.

One of my favorite prayers is that of St. Chrysostom, which says in part, "Fulfill now, O Lord, our desires and petitions as may be best for us; granting us in this world knowledge of your truth, and in the age to come life everlasting."

97 posted on 07/17/2009 7:11:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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