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To: Mr Rogers

You know I grew up hearing that myself and even telling it to other people believing it to be the truth.

It may surprise you that even the venerable King James Bible itself as originally published included cross references between the apocrypha and the new testament. This was something known to the translators of the King James Version but somewhere along the way that was removed and now we find many sincere people claiming it was never used. There remains in my Cambridge edition of the KJV a single cross reference between Hebrews and 2 Maccabees, though the bound volume I have does not include the apocrypha.

For one example of Paul relating a teaching directly from the apocrypha compare Romans 1:18-24 with Wisdom of Solomon 13:1-10. You can find both texts available online.

In fact Christ teaches directly from Wisdom of Solomon as related in Matthew. You will find references to the apocryphal works, in the same way as they refer to other scripture,

Peace to you.


40 posted on 08/10/2009 4:50:29 PM PDT by lucias_clay (I got feathers whose got tar ?)
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To: lucias_clay

Cross references and quotes are not the same. A cross reference just means the same topic or word appeared elsewhere, and no one denies that some parts of the Apocrypha are IAW scripture. In fact, the rule of thumb seemed to be that they were good for general reading, but not good for doctrine or teaching.

There are close to 300 quotes from the OT in the New.

Jude has this referencing the Apocrypha: “14It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”

Of course, Paul also quotes pagans: “28for “’In him we live and move and have our being’; as even some of your own poets have said, “’For we are indeed his offspring.’ “ - Acts 17

And, “12 One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” - Titus 1:12.

See a chart of many of the quotes here:

http://www.kalvesmaki.com/LXX/NTChart.htm

All told, there are good reasons for the Protestant (and Jerome’s!) reluctance about the Apocrypha.


41 posted on 08/10/2009 5:11:55 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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