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3 posted on 07/13/2009 7:41:43 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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He did not order the Apostles to multiply and scatter copies of the Scriptures.

Even tho the Catholic church perverts the scriptures so drastically, where would the Catholic church be without scripture to pervert???

What a completely lame argument your religion has for rejecting the word of God...

One of the attributes of the Holy Spirit is that He gave the remembrance of what Jesus said to the Apostles (and only the Apostles) so they wouldn't have to rely on their own memory...Now what good would it have done to have the Apostles remember every little detail if they weren't expected to write it down???

Your church claims Apostolic succession with the same power and leading of the Holy Spirit that the Apostles had...Ask the pope then to handle some poisonous snakes...Or ask the pope to quote the scripture from one end of the bible to the other, without opening a bible...Or ask your pope to raise someone from the dead like Paul did...

The Holy Spirit then states in the scripture that the words that you claim God never told anyone to write are inspired by God...Does any intelligent person believe that the scriptures could have been handed down orally without error for the last 2000 years??? And yes Jesus is recorded to have told some apostles to WRITE...

If the reading of Scripture were necessary to salvation, what of the immense number of Christians through all the centuries prior to the invention of printing, when it was impossible to transcribe by hand sufficient copies for the multitudes?

By preaching to crowds the words that were written in the scriptures that were available...That whay the apostle Paul demanded that those scriptures were to be read in the churches...

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

The word of God is the written word of God...Again, where would your religion be without the written word of God???

He may read the correct Word of God in those translations which are approved by the Church. He is forbidden to read the Protestant versions in which there are many mistranslations, and in which the text is often distorted to suit the enemies of the Catholic Church. But then, distorted texts are no longer the Word of God.

Again, not true at all...The vast majority of available manuscripts warn about the workings of the Catholic church including warnings to stay away from the religion who has priests, that wear long robes, that claims you can't eat meat on Friday, that claims a priest must NOT be married, etc..

And of course the Catholic would object to it's members reading these scriptures but again, they are in the vast, vast majority of manuscripts available...

Even granted a correct version, thousands of people have been harmed by the reading of Scripture, thinking themselves capable of interpreting it right. The Pharisees read Scripture, yet managed to use, or misuse, quotations from the Bible as an argument against Christ, just as men today quote Scripture as an argument against the true Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.

More than anyone else in the scriptures, these Pharisees resemble the Catholic church more than any other group in the scriptures...

556. You say that Catholics may read the Bible. But do they do so?

Some do. Some do not. All are free to do so, but it is not absolutely necessary that they should give themselves to the private reading of Scripture.

Not what God says...

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

A command from God to STUDY the scriptures...The Catholics took this out of their bibles so you wouldn't know that...

Act 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Act 17:12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

These people searched the scripture to find out if their teachers were telling them the truth...

1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
1Th 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

God says 'prove all things'...And how do you do that, by using the scripture to judge your teachers with...

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Another command from God to get into the scriptures and prove to yourself that you have salvation...And why do this???

2Co 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

Even in Paul's day people were corrupting the scriptures...You need to study the scriptures so you can search the scriptures to prove all things...

5 posted on 07/13/2009 8:43:24 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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