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To: betty boop; Quix
My two cents:

Protestants should not be surprised if and when the Pope speaks of global charity or economy or hope because the word "Catholic" means universal. It goes with the position so to speak.

Likewise, Catholics should not be surprised when Protestants are troubled if and when those statements refer to global governance because (at least some) Protestants tend to be apocalyptic due to end times prophecies, in this case the prophecy of a one world governance and also a one world religion.

Protestants have long suspected that a key end times player would arise within the Catholic church because of this passage which refers to the city on seven mountains (or hills.) The woman is a city (Rev 17:19) which reigns over the 'kings' of the earth.

And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. - Rev 17:9

Rome is notoriously set on seven hills. So is Jerusalem.

IMHO, Jerusalem would be a better match as a city to give rise to a one world religion simply because it is considered holy to Christians, Jews and Muslims. And yet the Eastern religions have no stake there.

For that reason, Share International is the one I am watching because their sales pitch if accepted, would affect all major belief systems around the world. Creme declares their "master Jesus" is already in Rome (a city on seven hills) - he is involved with the U.N. as you say - and will be disclosed on the "Day of Declaration" by the Maitreya who he claims is the Messiah, Krishna, Buddha, Twelth Imam, et al.

From the earlier linked website:

Day of Declaration

Maitreya will be invited by the international media to speak directly to the entire world through the television networks linked together by satellites.

On this Day of Declaration, we will see his face on the television screen wherever we have access. The biblical statement, "All eyes will see him," will be fulfilled, in the only way in which it can be fulfilled. We will see his face, but he will not speak. His thoughts, his ideas, his call to humanity for justice, sharing, right relationships and peace, will take place silently, telepathically. Each of us will hear him inwardly in our own language. In this way, he will re-enact on a worldwide scale the true happenings of Pentecost 2,000 years ago.

At the same time, the energy which he embodies ― the Christ Principle, the energy of love ― will flow out in tremendous potency through the hearts of all humanity. He has said: "It will be as if I embrace the world. People will feel it even physically." This will evoke an intuitive, heartfelt response to his message. Simultaneously, on the outer, physical plane, there will be hundreds of thousands of miracle healings throughout the planet. In these three ways we will know that Maitreya is the World Teacher, come for all groups, religious and non-religious alike.

Our response to this experience will determine the entire future of this planet. Maitreya will present us with a choice: either we continue as we are now, in the old, greedy, selfish, complacent ways of the past, and destroy ourselves, or we accept the principle of sharing, accept that we are one, and begin the creation of a civilization such as this world has never yet seen. Maitreya already knows our answer. He has said: "My heart tells me your answer, your choice, and is glad."

Such a character and such an event would fulfill more of the end times prophecies, this one in particular:

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Behold, I have told you before.

Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. - Matthew 24:21-28

Maranatha, Jesus!!!

56 posted on 07/11/2009 11:39:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; Frumanchu; P-Marlowe; spirited irish; blue-duncan; Quix
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Thus we are warned away from all such spectacles and enterprises, dearest sister in Christ!

But will we heed God's warning?

God's warning does not deal with "world governance" per se. It seems to me it is addressed to individual human souls.

Share International seems to be trying to "organize" religion itself, to make it serve — as a sort of lackey — the global secular purposes of the self-selected wise rulers who propose to relieve us of all independent conscience as the price to be paid for the rise of their own pet utopia. And at the end of the day, I expect this proposition bottoms out in: You WILL get on board — or else.

Yet it's worth recalling that "utopia" is the New Latin word for "nowhere."

Meanwhile, it seems to me no purpose is served by different religious confessions attacking each other on doctrinal points. The problem we face transcends doctrinal dispute altogether. Or so it seems to me. In short, what it all boils down to is the need for widespread, absolute rejection of the very thing that what's-her-name the Anglican primate is proposing. Which is the utter severance of the God–Man relation altogether, so that a "new god" can be hoisted onto the newly vacant Seat of Truth, Justice, and Love.

I don't "buy" what these folks are "selling," not in the least.

And so I wonder: Do we Christians prefer to contend with each other, rather than unite against our Common Enemy?

Thank you ever so much for your elegant essay/post, dearest sister in Christ!

61 posted on 07/11/2009 1:45:45 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: Alamo-Girl

EXCEEDINGLY WELL PUT, as usual.

Thx.


69 posted on 07/11/2009 8:00:45 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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