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To: betty boop; Quix; xzins; P-Marlowe
Thank you oh so very much for bringing your exceptional insights into Creme et al, dearest sister in Christ! I was hoping you would do just that.

As for this Schiori person, all I can say is: She is to the Anglican Church what Benjamin Creme is to the UN. They evidently are soul mates.

Indeed. In my opinion, we are on a slippery slope that might result in our seeing the prophecy of a one world religion fulfilled.

And by my reading of the prophecies, the one world religion will not simply be an "I'm ok, you're ok" belief, but will have a mortal person at the head of it.

If Creme, Schiori et al cede to a single authority, e.g. a Maitreya, then we Christians should get ready for our homegoing, praising God and saying "Maranatha, Jesus!"

It seems to me the spirit of objective Evil is blowing through our world. And its enablers and co-dependents are already firmly ensconced within our own churches, and other main cultural and political institutions.

Indeed!

I'd be really depressed right now, were it not for the fact that I have absolute trust that God will turn all this mess into His Good Purpose.

Amen!

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose. - Romans 8:28

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39

God's Name is I AM!

55 posted on 07/11/2009 10:39:26 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; hosepipe; Frumanchu; P-Marlowe; spirited irish; blue-duncan; Quix; metmom
...we are on a slippery slope that might result in our seeing the prophecy of a one world religion fulfilled

Well "they'll" have to "fulfill" it without us, dearest sister in Christ! But certainly, that is not the same thing as saying the prophecy itself is wrong....

Notice that Benjamin Creme readily admits that Christians are expected to be the most "unpersuadable" people when it comes to "accepting" the "Lord" Maitreya in this life. To which I would hasten to add: or in any other life.

So, what strategies do these self-appointed messiahs of our Brave New World propose to deal with that problem — the unforgivable "sin" of not hewing to the line of what they declare is already "the received doctrine?" Conversion by the sword, a la your standard jihadi moron?

Where does this seeming "Mexican standoff" end?

We do indeed living in interesting times — as the ancient Chinese proverb puts it. Of course, the context of the saying is a curse.

Thanks for noticing that I might have a thing or two to say about my "ol' drinking buddy." Though I haven't thought about this "stuff" in some 20+ years, I have read all of Ben Creme's books, and all of Alice Bailey's theosophical works besides (she was major inspiration for Creme both as to methods and content). Among her enchanting titles are The Rays and the Initiations, Esoteric Psychology, Treatise on Cosmic Fire, plus many others. (Bailey was certainly prolific in her writings. ALL are published by Lucis Trust.)

If anybody wants any details regarding where Jesus Christ fits into this picture, let me just say that His role is so minor — He being "only" a "third-degree initiate" in this system (for context, Leonardo Da Vinci holds that rank as well) — that He has been utterly eclipsed by the "hidden" Masters of the Hierarchy.... The sovereign of this "world system" is actually a seventh-degree initiate by the name of Sanat Kumara, who is himself about to undertake his "next" initiation, which will (1) literally take him out of this world system, presumably in pursuit of "higher and better" things; but his doing so will also force (2) corresponding "initiations" of all his subordinate "hidden masters" here on earth. Which is the backstory or pretext of the "hidden" Maitreya (already a fourth degree initiate, seeking to attain the fifth degree in order to legitimize his reign on earth) becoming "visible" in the first place. Presumably, under this system, Jesus Christ might actually succeed in making his fourth initiation (His "third degree" was secured by His Crucifixion).... But then, you never know: He might "fail," He might "not make it" to the fourth on this try....

Talk about a "whole-cloth" fairy story.... And yet there are dolts out there who lap this stuff up with a spoon. But what is proposed here is nothing short of a massive cultural paradigm shift.

"O Rose, thou art sick!" as the poet said....

Quite inadvertently, I seem to be the most qualified "expert" on Benjamin Creme and his Maitreya movement in all of FReeperland. Which is not to brag. It's just to say not only am I intimately familiar with the literature, but once upon a time Ben and I drained a fifth of Dewars between us, and had a most fascinating, uninterrupted tete-a-tete in the time it took us to do that.... :^)

But of course I rarely partake of "spirits" nowadays.... LOLOL!

Thank you so very much, dearest sister in Christ, for your beautiful, beautiful essay/post! And — as ever — for all your support.

58 posted on 07/11/2009 12:24:26 PM PDT by betty boop
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To: Alamo-Girl

Indeed. In my opinion, we are on a slippery slope that might result in our seeing the prophecy of a one world religion fulfilled.
And by my reading of the prophecies, the one world religion will not simply be an “I’m ok, you’re ok” belief, but will have a mortal person at the head of it.

If Creme, Schiori et al cede to a single authority, e.g. a Maitreya, then we Christians should get ready for our homegoing, praising God and saying “Maranatha, Jesus!”

= = =

ITTM:
INDEED TO THE MAX!


68 posted on 07/11/2009 7:58:38 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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