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To: Houghton M.; airborne; AngieGal; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; ...
You really don’t know what you are writing about.

It's quite conceivable, that after studying the topic for 44 years, that I don't know what I'm writing about.

. . . unlikely . . . but conceivable.

On the other hand, it's quite conceivable that some Vatican sanctioned mirrors are broken.

subsidiarity is for real and the encyclical is not a brief for your NWO. Sorry, it’s just not.

I haven't observed "it's just not" to be a very valid nor convincing bit of evidence to the contrary.

Subsidiarity is real? That would depend on a list of things.

1. One of the things it would depend on in the world postulated in the encyclical is that the global government would implement it in the most lovingly charitable and most local manner possible OTHER THAN making all policemen prosecutors, judges, juries and executioners on the spot.

IF ANYONE thinks the global government is likely to do that--THEN there is some serious lack of sufficient synapses firing between their ears.

IF ANYONE thinks that the global government Biblically predicted for the END TIMES is not already in force and about to spring overtly on the world stage, THEN perhaps there is a vacuum between their ears.

We face a greater threat to our freedoms from the bureaucratic tyranny of our own US government.

Uhhhhh . . . . a growing number on FR and around the Nation realize that . . . our Constitution has been increasingly shredded the last many decades. Our government is now 'headed' by a puppet from hell. The Senate has very few true Americans left in it. The House leadership is compromised. The MSM have been controlled lock stock and word smithing for at least 100 years. Many State governments are similarly utterly controlled by the globalists.

Europe is worse. South America is worse. Africa is worse. Asia is mostly worse. Australia is worse.

Whatever tyranny horribly exists [and it's near maximally hideous and plentiful already] within our Republic's government is A SUB-SET of the global realities. Ignorance or disbelief in the truth of that won't change the realities at all.

So that sentence is more than a little nonsensical. To whatever degree Vatican components or even the Pope himself are wittingly or unwittingly complicit with the NWO is also a SUB-SET of the global realities. It would just be an important sub-set.

And that tyranny will oppress Catholics who, bolstered by love of Life as taught in this encyclical, will refuse to knuckle under. You might think about the coming day when you might appreciate Catholic brothers-in-arms (figuratively . . .

Perhaps more than most "Christian" groups, millions of self-labeled Roman Catholics will follow the yellow brick road to globalist hell because they have been 'properly' conditioned, propagandized etc. etc. by the MSM and even by some of their own customs and habits as well as by encyclicals like this one and the one before it.

Y'all make a LOT of nuances and various shadings of diplo-speak as though those shadings of meaning made a gnat's burp's worth of difference. In some respects, they do--in that shadings and nuances of meaning are more effective in seducing people down that yellow brick road. They end up in hell before they realize what they've really been agreeing with for quite some time.

OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE, HOPEFULLY, millions of RC's joining on God's side. I worked joyfully arm in arm with a Mary Knoll sister on the mission field. She actually shared the Lord's Supper with us a number of times with the blessing of her priest. I'm happy to relate to all those who authentically Love Jesus and endeavor to put Him first as brothers and sisters in Christ.

To the degree that a Culture of Death comes to dominate the world, as it will, I think you’ll find that the most courageous opponent of it will be the bishop of Rome.

It already dominates the world.

It remains to be seen whether the Pope ATT will stand on the side of God, or not. I suspect not . . . as Malachi Martin's prediction seems to indicate. imho, Such encyclicals as this one are not promising in a Godly direction.

Take care that you, in you twisted fear of the Bishop of Rome, don’t wake up some day allied with the actually existing NWO against its leading opponent. The NWO will take forms that you probably won’t even recognize because you are blinded by your own fervid search for it.

That paragraph appears to be so ignorant as to almost be beyond bother.

The Bishop of Rome nor the whole Vatican edifice is not to be feared. Pitied, would be more apt. Given this encyclical, very pitied would be even more apt.

I'm not at all convinced that the Pope will be overtly against the NWO when the rubber meets the road in the not too distant future.

Your remaining comments about the NWO and my perceptiveness about it are . . . too absurd & laughable for further comment. Evidently the topic is not well studied on your side.

38 posted on 07/10/2009 9:10:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

You’re a good man, Charlie Brown. You’ve got more stamina than I. I rest my case.


41 posted on 07/10/2009 9:15:21 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Quix
The fact that so many "conservative" Roman Catholics on this forum are trying desperately to find a way to rationalize the pope's disgusting liberalism is pathetic.

But why should we be surprised? They rationalize the wisdom of Scripture into foolishness. This is just more of the same. It's how they were taught.

51 posted on 07/10/2009 12:02:19 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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