[papertyger]

If not, it is then not voluntary...It's a requirement...

Do we have to put up with this kind of trollish baiting? By this kind of quibbling, a volunteer fireman would be nothing but a suicide.

[Religion Moderator]

This is an "open" thread in the Religion Forum. The debate can become contentious.

If this town square type of debate troubles you then ignore the "open" threads and instead post to the "prayer" "devotional" "caucus" or "ecumenical" threads.

[Iscool]

Do we have to put up with this kind of trollish baiting? By this kind of quibbling, a volunteer fireman would be nothing but a suicide.

What's that??? Do firemen have to swear an oath to go down with the fire in order to be a fireman???

[Marysecretary]

Petronski’s answer is even worse, LOL.