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To: bdeaner
I pray all will be given the grace and hope to believe in the Truth that is Christ's Mystical Body of the Church -- the instrumental means for our salvation.

The Pharisees thought their standing in the temple would save them, too.

We are not saved by an ecclesiastic hierarchy of fallen men. We are saved by Jesus Christ paying for every one of our sins in full, by the will of God for the glory of God.

Christ did not say to believe in mysticism and tyranny; in fables about Mary or lies about "another Christ."

He said "Believe in me and my righteousness; in the work I do on the cross for your sake.

"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ" -- Phil. 1:6

879 posted on 06/29/2009 11:43:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The Pharisees thought their standing in the temple would save them, too.

Matthew 23: 1-3: 1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

This passage demonstrates that Jesus told His disciples to respect those who have legitimate authority. He does not admonish the Pharisees for their positions of authority; on the contrary, he criticizes them for their hypocrisy -- for their failure to practice what they preached.

We have the same problem in the Catholic Church. The Church has been given the authority by Christ to operate as the instrumental means for salvation of all people. But we all fail to live up to what the Church institutes in Christ's name; we inveitably fall. And that is why Christ instituted the sacrament of confession, for the forgiveness of sins. This sacrament is a gratuitous gift of grace that we do not deserve nor merit, and yet He has blessed us with it nonetheless, praise be to God.

2 Corinthians 5:18
18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:

881 posted on 06/30/2009 12:10:42 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
He said "Believe in me and my righteousness; in the work I do on the cross for your sake.

Sorry, that verse must be one of the ones our fallen leaders deleted from the holy scriptures.

Of course, it could just be that some can not tell the difference between their personal dogmas, and holy scriptures.

918 posted on 06/30/2009 7:25:06 AM PDT by papertyger (A difference that makes no difference is no difference)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
He said "Believe in me and my righteousness; in the work I do on the cross for your sake."

Christ didn't say that. YOU did.

947 posted on 06/30/2009 9:40:22 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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