drifdiver:
I don’t think my post is confusing. I clearly stated that the theology of the Eucharist expressed by the Church Fathers and the Councils of the CHurch is the same theology of the Eucharist held by both the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church.
Now, one thing that bothers me, and this is personal thing with me, is that whenever one of these threads gets going, it is pretty obvious 1) What the Catholic Church believes, as its Doctrines are well published and 2) Given Catholics on this forum or very orthdodox, you know what each of us believes.
On the other hand, the Protestants on this forum all go after Catholics with a vengeance, not saying you all are necessarily doing that, and yet none of you all ever state what Protestant Traditon you belong to as I think if you all were to do that, we would see that your theological differences are many, yet the one thing that unites you all on this forum is your crticism of Catholic Doctrine.
“On the other hand, the Protestants on this forum all go after Catholics with a vengeance”
It is a two way street and traffic has been heavy both ways.
“and yet none of you all ever state what Protestant Traditon you belong to as I think if you all were to do that, we would see that your theological differences are many, yet the one thing that unites you all on this forum is your crticism of Catholic Doctrine.”
I go to a Baptist Church but consider myself a plain ole Christian. Our theological differences are no greater than that of catholics. I’ve met good devout catholics and those not so devout. I’ve met catholics that went to mass on Saturday night so they could go out get drunk and go home with someone.
What bugs me and possibly many others is when Catholics lay the claim that they are the only way to salvation or that their priests are equal to Christ. Some catholics agree to disagree when challenged and others throw insults.
Answering every discussion with “thats your individual interpretation” is a cop out and convinces nobody. But I say go for it. I hope there are lurkers searching for an answer and I pray that answer will be one where they can pray directly to God. Where they don’t have to pay for forgiveness and where good deeds are something they do because they are saved and not to be saved. I pray they realize that acceptance and love is out there looking for them in the name of Jesus.
It’s OK. I’ve been told that I have no salvation outside the Catholic Church, or that if I am saved then I am a Catholic. And that I have fallen and/or need to be pruned.
I’ve defined what I am (a Free Methodist). I have only argued from the Scripture (specifically using the USCCB - the Catholic NAB online), and using the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Which Protestant tradition do you feel is not Scriptural? What claims do we make that deny Catholics can be saved and welcomed into the kingdom of Heaven?
I’ve never been shy about telling what tradition I am from, but it’s mocked and ridiculed by a couple posters here so why bother. If you are really interested, I’ll freepmail you.
That's because we have a commonality...We may not agree on some details but we are basically in unity as it comes to salvation, as Jesus desired...
Your religion as compared with us is so far out behind the barn, that I for one, can see no possible unity...
It is your religious leader who said your religion has far more in common with Izlam than it does with Protestantism...
Most Protestants are my brothers/sisters in Christ...Muzlims and those who worship the same god they do are not my brothers in Christ...
Therefore, we try to get you guys to 'come out from among the darkness' and learn the ways of Jesus...