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To: Markos33
the Holy Spirit isn't an itself...he's an Himself. He is a member of the Godhead, the Trinity.

You are right on this point, and I thank you for the correction. I did not choose my words carefully enough. The Holy Spirit is indeed a person, and that is precisely what the Catholic Church professes as well. The appropriate term is "Himself" not "itself."

Per the Church, "The Holy Ghost is the Third Person of the Blessed Trinity. Though really distinct, as a Person, from the Father and the Son, He is consubstantial with Them; being God like Them, He possesses with Them one and the same Divine Essence or Nature. He proceeds, not by way of generation, but by way of spiration, from the Father and the Son together, as from a single principle."

Simple, The Holy Spirit will never speak of Himself, He was sent into this world to glorify Christ. If you're in a situation where Christ isn't being taught, praised, or glorified, then get out! Because the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with it!

I do not have a problem with this statement, in principle. However, I think the problem arises when one begins to explore which doctrines glorify Christ and which do not. If one believes that to glorify Christ is to remain obedient to his expressed desires for his followers, and if you understand the Bible to say that Christ established a Church to serve as a teaching authority with the power to bind and loose, and by which hell will not prevail against it, then you glorify Christ by your allegiance to that Church. The Church is not the ultimate authority, Christ is, and by implication, by being obedient to His command through allegiance to the Church He established is to glorify Him.
520 posted on 06/28/2009 11:49:45 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: bdeaner
Once again, thank you for your reply.

I'm in no position to correct you my FRiend, and that was not my intent.

You have answered my previous question, but may I impose for just one more...

Who do YOU say that Christ is...meaning, who is He...to YOU?

522 posted on 06/29/2009 12:07:33 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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