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To: Mr Rogers
However, how is “Protestants have your own traditions of interpreting the Bible. They just deny them, which is bad faith and false witness.” not personal. I’m a Protestant, so do I act in bad faith and false witness?

Allow me to qualify: If you admit to having hermeneutic presuppositions in your approach to Scripture, and you are a Protestant, then no, you do not act in bad faith nor are you a false witness. I believe there are such Protestants out there, so I apologize for the overgeneralization.

What I should have said is that sola Scriptura, as a doctrine, is a Protestant tradition that denies it is a tradition. The doctrine is a bad faith doctrine. That is more to the point and less inflammatory. I'm not attempting to fan flames.

I do respect your knowledge of scripture and your willingness to engage in rational arguments rather than a lot of the game-playing that goes on in these threads. As I have said before, I've learned alot from our discussions, and have a lot of respect for you.

And p.s. will get to some of your posts directed to me from earlier, but I have a lot of posts to respond to, so give me time. Thanks.
481 posted on 06/28/2009 9:25:33 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: bdeaner

“...sola Scriptura, as a doctrine, is a Protestant tradition that denies it is a tradition.”

Speaking as a Baptist, we generally consider sola Scriptura more of a reasonable conclusion, not a tradition. We don’t use it because others did, but because it seems reasonable, and to fit with scripture. Of course, Baptist Doctrine is like Military Intelligence...a bit of a contradiction in terms.

The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith (http://www.grbc.net/about_us/1689.php)

1.1 The Holy Scriptures are the only sufficient, certain and infallible rule [1] for saving knowledge, faith, and obedience. [2]

Although the light of nature and the works of creation and providence give such clear testimony to the goodness, wisdom and power of God that they leave people without excuse, [3] yet they are not sufficient to give the knowledge of God and his will that is necessary for salvation. [4] Therefore it pleased the Lord to reveal himself at various times and in different ways, and to declare his will to his church. [5] To ensure the preservation and propagation of the truth, and to establish and support the church against human corruption, the malice of Satan, and the world, he committed his complete revelation to writing. The Holy Scriptures are therefore absolutely indispensable, [6] for God’s former ways of revealing his will to his people have now ceased. [7]

1. Or, standard

2. Isaiah 8:20 Luke 16:29 Ephesians 2:20 2 Timothy 3:15-17

3. Psalms 19:1-3 Romans 1:19-21,32 Romans 2:12a,14-15

4. Psalms 19:1-3 with Psalms 19:7-11 Romans 1:19-21 Romans 2:12a,14-15 with Romans 1:16-17 and Romans 3:21

5. Hebrews 1:1-2a

6. Proverbs 22:19-21 Luke 1:1-4 2 Peter 1:12-15 2 Peter 3:1 Deuteronomy 17:18ff Deuteronomy 31:9ff,19ff 1 Corinthians 15:1 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2,15 2 Thessalonians 3:17 Romans 1:8-15 Galatians 4:20 Galatians 6:11 1 Timothy 3:14ff Revelation 1:9,19 Revelation 2:1, etc. Romans 15:4 2 Peter 1:19-21

7. Hebrews 1:1-2a Acts 1:21-22 1 Corinthians 9:1 1 Corinthians 15:7-8 Ephesians 2:20


488 posted on 06/28/2009 9:35:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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