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To: Petronski
The concept of the Catholic Church is heavily supported and defined and made truth by the Bible.

You do realize the catechism is not the Bible, don't you?

Where is Sola Scriptura in the Bible?

This Mediator [Jesus Christ], having spoken what He judged sufficient first by the prophets, then by His own lips, and afterwards by the apostles, has besides produced the Scripture which is called canonical, which has paramount authority, and to which we yield assent in all matters of which we ought not to be ignorant, and yet cannot know of ourselves.

- St. Augustine, City of God, Book XI, Chapter III

For the Biblical reference, see 2 Thessalonians 2:15:

With all these things in mind, dear brothers, stand firm and keep a strong grip on the truth that we taught you in our letters and during the time we were with you.

- From the Catholic Living Bible

So St. Augustine and St. Paul both call on the Divine and ultimate truth of the Bible. Sola Scriptura.

Still waiting for you to give any reference to the succession of the Pope as Biblical! Or his ability to speak ex cathedra.

Where is the word Trinity in the Bible?

The word is not. The concept is. Can you say the same about the Pope or ex cathedra writs from the Pope?

360 posted on 06/28/2009 3:03:33 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
You do realize the catechism is not the Bible, don't you?

You do realize that the Catechism is larded with footnotes, don't you?

So St. Augustine and St. Paul both call on the Divine...

Truth of the Bible? Absolutely.

But:

...and ultimate....

I didn't see any hint of "ultimate" in there.

Further, Sts. Augustine and Paul do NOT say Scripture ONLY.

Finally, since by its own definition sola Scriptura must be defined by Scripture alone, St. Augustine is out of bounds.

I mean, out of bounds for the sola Scriptura crowd, anyway.

362 posted on 06/28/2009 3:12:05 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

***For the Biblical reference, see 2 Thessalonians 2:15:

With all these things in mind, dear brothers, stand firm and keep a strong grip on the truth that we taught you in our letters and during the time we were with you.

- From the Catholic Living Bible
So St. Augustine and St. Paul both call on the Divine and ultimate truth of the Bible. Sola Scriptura.***

False. St. Paul did not know that his letters would be named Scripture. He wanted the people under his authority as bishop to follow his theological commands, as all bishops do.

***Where is the word Trinity in the Bible?

The word is not. The concept is. Can you say the same about the Pope or ex cathedra writs from the Pope?***

It has as much direct and indirect evidence.


411 posted on 06/28/2009 4:35:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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