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To: bdeaner

***Paul makes it clear that only men with wives should be within the leadership of Christ’s only church.

Jesus said (Matthew 19:12):
For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it.***

I am having a conversation with a gentleman who believes that Paul supersedes Jesus; Jesus is the milk and Paul is the meat. But debating with correct interpretations of Paul is not accepted either by our apostate brethren; certain passages of Paul fall into the Reformation black hole of theological manufacturing.

***These verses form the scriptural rationale for the much-maligned Catholic requirement of celibacy for priests, monks, and nuns. St. Paul’s argument is clear enough, for anyone able to receive it. The celibate priest can singleheartedly devote himself both to God and his flock. The practical advantages of having more time and not being burdened by multiple loyalties are obvious to common sense.***

The Catholic Church does not permit married bishops; can you imagine such as Bishop D’Arcy (Fort Wayne - South Bend), a great man that I have been privileged to meet several times, or the Pope married and taking time away from the Church? Very unfair to his flock and to the Church. Many great Saints and Doctors of the Church were either unmarried or were widowed.


2,670 posted on 07/17/2009 7:55:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
I am having a conversation with a gentleman who believes that Paul supersedes Jesus; Jesus is the milk and Paul is the meat. But debating with correct interpretations of Paul is not accepted either by our apostate brethren; certain passages of Paul fall into the Reformation black hole of theological manufacturing.

Cherry-picking scripture is almost a fine art among Protestant circles. Of course, Luther already threw out seven inspired Books -- the deuterocanonicals -- when they were not convenient to his theology and he tried to put the Book of James in an appendix because he didn't like the second chapter. Pathetic.

Many great Saints and Doctors of the Church were either unmarried or were widowed.

The very strict vows of chastity and poverty represented by the clergy of the Catholic Church surely do not fit the ridiculous claim by some, such as WVKayaker, that the Church is only out for the money. If no one can personally claim the money for himself, obviously the Church is not driven by personal greed. No single organization on the planet consistently contributes as much to charity as the Catholic Church. Many have come to the Church simply by witnessing first-hand the self-less charitable actions of the Body of Christ. No one can doubt our clergy in the Church are truly set apart from the world--the very meaning of sanctification--, to the extent that they maintain fidelity to their vows.
2,672 posted on 07/17/2009 9:16:53 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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