[bdeaner]

John 3:5
5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

WATER and Spirit. Baptism.

Now go read Luke 3. Even Christ got baptized with water, and what happened? The Holy Spirit descends. WATER and SPIRIT.

That's so far above your head you couldn't reach it with the space shuttle

I think this statement says a lot more about you than it does about me.

Kingdom of heaven means kingdom of HEAVEN, no matter how many hermeneutic cartwheels you attempt in order to interpret it your own, esoteric way.

But then I don't expect much from someone who has rebuked logic, reason and common sense.

[Iscool]

John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

WATER and Spirit. Baptism.

Now go read Luke 3. Even Christ got baptized with water, and what happened? The Holy Spirit descends. WATER and SPIRIT.

No comparison at all...Jesus didn't get born in the river...He got wet...

John got the people wet who repented of their sins as a testimony of that repentance...

Ther eis no water baptism in John 3;5...

But then I don't expect much from someone who has rebuked logic, reason and common sense.

God never said understanding the scripture was based on intellect, logic, reasoning, common sense...That's a man made religion...Jesus says as much, and more...