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To: Petronski
2 Timothy 3:15-17 says you do not need more than Scripture. It does not say you cannot USE more, but you do not NEED more:

and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus

The sacred writings known to Timothy at the time Paul wrote to him. No writings beyond that are needed to give the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith. And as verses 16 and 17 say, these same sacred writings that existed and were known to Timothy are also complete to provide guidance of Christian actions (correction) and to teach and evangelize. That is EXACTLY what it says.

Thus - in the words of Paul, in his 2nd letter to Timothy, the Scriptures are all that are needed for salvation; however, having additional reflections, concordances, expositions on the Scripture can help. But fundamentally, they are NOT needed.

1,468 posted on 07/01/2009 9:54:08 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; Marysecretary
Here's another passage to underscore a point MarySecretary was making earlier:

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. - I John 2:27

And this:

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. - John 3:5-8

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:12-13

And again,

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. - John 6:63

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. - I Corinthians 2:14

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. – John 8:43

To God be the glory!

1,471 posted on 07/01/2009 10:03:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The sacred writings known to Timothy at the time Paul wrote to him.

Actually, Paul is referring to the sacred writings that existed from the time of Timothy's childhood:

...from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom...
Using your interpretation excludes a lot--or all--of Paul's writings. And how old was Timothy? If he's older than the Gospels, your interpretation might well exclude them too.

Thus your interpretation must be rejected.

And still no sola Scriptura.

1,482 posted on 07/02/2009 5:22:47 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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