[Iscool]

"It is not, in fact, real authority if it does not coincide with that truth discovered in the power of reason, even if it is a recommended authority transmitted for the use of the successors of the Church Fathers...no authority should ever distract you from what helps you understand the persuasion or true rational contemplation. In fact authentic authority never contradicts true reason neither can the latter ever contradict true authority. Both, without doubt, originate from the same source that is divine wisdom. Therefore we see the courage of reason that results in the certainty that true authority is reasonable, because God is the creator of reason”

Your pope's problem is, is that he doesn't realize those that disagree with him have just as good a logic and reason...Better, in my view...

This infallible story you guys came up with has been with you for only a couple hundred years...Now that's not logical at all...Anyone with any common sense can see how fallible that idea is...

[bdeaner]

Your pope's problem is, is that he doesn't realize those that disagree with him have just as good a logic and reason...Better, in my view...

On several occasions in past discussions on this thread and others, you have rejected logic and reason as a valid form of arriving at the Truth. Why the sudden change?

Otherwise, your statement is empty words. Anybody can make such claims. It's entirely another thing to back it up and point out examples to illustrate your point.