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To: Dutchboy88

Of course. I only refer to Calvinism for brevity but I really am asking for your personal views. Surely I will not say “because that is Calvinism, that is wrong”, but I reseve the right to say “Because of X, Y and Z, Calvinism is wrong on that point”. If I was guilty of argument by labeling, I apologize, it was not my intention. Obviously, a good deal of what you say or other non-Catholics say is nevertheless gospel truth.

While on that topic, as Catholic I am attempting to present the doctrines of the Catholic Church and so I try not to engage in personal interpretation of scripture. If I inadvertently fail to do so, I ask to be corrected by readers who understand Catholicism better than I. So it is fine for you to say “That’s Catholicism”.

I read your passages but since they usually cover several aspects in my response I concentrate on what I think is the key difficulty. One thing I avoid is responding to every phrase I might have a disagreement with or a question as it tends to dilute focus. I trust that if some larger context is relevant you will point that out and I will read it, and if you think I missed your point, well, correct me.


355 posted on 07/09/2009 11:08:24 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

That is all very agreeable. And, of course, disagree with me because of “X, Y and Z”. Those are legitimate positions to take, and I very much want an argument to be either truthful or shown to be incorrect, primarily by Scripture. I care little if Calvin believed it or not. We have no heroes (save for One).

And, I recognize you are somewhat constrained to avoid what the Catholic Church deems “personal interpretation”, although I admit I have a hard time understanding what that means exactly. Do you have to refer to a particular reference manual that is the authorized commentary about a passage? For example, did you have to consult a scholarly text to state that, “God knew all along where Adam was (paraphrased)”?

Finally, that is fine to focus on the apparent central issue you believe is presented in any given passage; I, too, must do that for the sake of brevity and continuing the focus. And, I extend the same offer to you to argue a “larger context” point and correct me if I miss it on the first pass.

Now, could you repeat the question you proposed?

I have to leave for much of the afternoon, now. Will respond when I return.


356 posted on 07/09/2009 11:51:44 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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